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Old 01-29-2013, 06:36 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Never make a post about Fighters under 155 or women. Most here are closed minded and you will constantly have to come here to argue your point. I have seen some of these 100 pounders beat the shit out of mouth Marines in Thailand... It is always good for entertainment. I watch the fights for the fights; not some preconcieved notion of what I feel a fighter should be.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:40 PM   #52 (permalink)
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We can discuss this in 5 years once the UFC gets the 135 & 125 divisions filled up. These divisions need and influx of fighters before we even start thinking about a 115 class.
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Does knowing someone's name make them any less skilled? How many people here knew who Ian McCall was 2 years ago? Does that mean he wasn't talented? How many are aware of who Darrell Montague is? Does that mean he isn't talented? How many know Soo Chul Kim? That guy is full of talent. Not knowing and not existing are very different. Like I said put those guys in the cage with the special letters on their gloves and see if that talent doesn't magically appear.
Most people here are just giving the UFC good advice that you don't want to hear. It would seem you have enough spare time your hands to follow every single mma organization out there. The problem is the majority of this board doesn't even have time to follow every UFC division to it's fullest, a smaller percentage watch bellator, and a very small fraction of mma fans watch anything other than those two organizations.

It is silly to introduce a division whether it be super hw or straw this soon after adding two new divisions that most people are still catching up on in terms of who's who. Remember, there is no espn highlight or top moves of the night for these organizations. You have to go searching for it, because it is underground.

The notion that Ineed to follow underground stuff to be a fan of MMA is ridiculous to me. Do I need to watch the OHL because I am a hockey fan and love the NHL?

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It amazes me everytime when there is a thread on smaller fighters or WMMA. If size is the only thing that matters then most of you are in trouble.
I think it is about seeing top talent. People are concerned that watching womens mma is like watching two unathletic guys fight. People also don't like the idea of two freakishly small guys fighting (ie 5"2 115lbs is VERY small for a man in shape). If there are not many people of that size or sex participating the talent pool will be very weak, just like a SW division.
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See it's people like you that Dana is referring to. I have a hard time not responding like an asshole to people as ignorant as you. You are not a true fan IMO.
Dude i am serious tho. The fighters would be half the size of the refs and the devision wouldnt be stacked enough. Make a super heavyweight first, or sth in between like 230 pounds.

Also i assume you do some training as well, its not totally unreasonable to think that i could take someone more than 100 pounds lighter and over an inch taller...
I am 6'5 220 pounds and if i could get a training camp to get into the perfect shape i could hold them down for a boring decision victory all day long :P
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also @ rofl who was saying we will start to critisize small football players in the nfl: the difference is that the nfl is open weight and these 160 athletes are up against 250 lb behemoths. they use speed to overcome size which makes it very intrtesting. would you guys watch an nfl division for only 115 to 125 pounders?

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Dude i am serious tho. The fighters would be half the size of the refs and the devision wouldnt be stacked enough. Make a super heavyweight first.
So your logic is that a Strawweight division wouldn't be 'stacked enough' presumably because of the lack of talent, yet you're all for adding a super heavyweight division? Gotta say here, I think a SHW division would be just as weak at this point. Can you explain why you think a SHW division would be a good addition? I'd love to see a Strawweight division added, but I want to see 125 and 135 reach their full potential first.

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i never want to see sw or shw ever. like rofl said the amount of people that are this size is simply so small it will be nearly impossible to put together deep divisions.

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also @ rofl who was saying we will start to critisize small football players in the nfl: the difference is that the nfl is open weight and these 160 athletes are up against 250 lb behemoths. they use speed to overcome size which makes it very intrtesting. would you guys watch an nfl division for only 115 to 125 pounders?

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That really wasn't the point.

In fact it just makes the counter-argument all the more retarded.

If 150lb men can use athleticism to overcome "behemoths" then they shouldn't be discredited when fighting each other.

And God knows they shouldn't be discredited relative to keyboard warriors.


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So your logic is that a Strawweight division wouldn't be 'stacked enough' presumably because of the lack of talent, yet you're all for adding a super heavyweight division? Gotta say here, I think a SHW division would be just as weak at this point. Can you explain why you think a SHW division would be a good addition? I'd love to see a Strawweight division added, but I want to see 125 and 135 reach their full potential first.

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There's more tantalizing and better Super HWs than Strawweights.

Strawweight barely exists.

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Dude i am serious tho. The fighters would be half the size of the refs and the devision wouldnt be stacked enough. Make a super heavyweight first, or sth in between like 230 pounds.

Also i assume you do some training as well, its not totally unreasonable to think that i could take someone more than 100 pounds lighter and over an inch taller...
I am 6'5 220 pounds and if i could get a training camp to get into the perfect shape i could hold them down for a boring decision victory all day long :P
I doubt it.

Royce Gracie was about 160lbs when he choked out men nearing 300lbs and these were trained, elite combat athletes.

You entering a McDojo for a few months isn't going to make you a killer.

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OneFC is the most entertaining MMA we have since the peak of Strikeforce. It's impossible for a fan not to enjoy their product and anyone can see there is legit skill in that cage. I seriously doubt you did anything other then read a play by play or sherdog the results. You can read up all you want but as a fan of the sport I enjoy watching talented fighters giving it all they got. That's exactly what you get with OneFC. Straight warriors.

Boku vs Zoro was an extremely entertaining fight to watch and Boku had an amazing comeback and fought like a warrior. How anyone can diss that fight is beyond me. One of the most entertaining fights I have seen in a long time. You sir, are not a fan of MMA.
Keep reading all you can buddy, cause you sure as hell ain't watching the action.
You sound like a condecending hipster pillock.

I've been to plenty of domestic events and never even seen a strawweight fight before. I don't even belive it's a proper division, without literaly starving yourself I'd guess that >1% of the worlds population could cut to 115, epecially as the smaller you get the worse the cut.

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Yeah it's obnoxious. YOU JUST READ YOU DONT EVEN WATCH.


I've likely forgotten about more MMA then this dude's watched. What a joke.


He also fails to address the fact that OneFC doesnt even have a strawweight division as the current biggest promotion in Asia.
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