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UFC The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is a U.S.-based mixed martial arts organization, recognized as the largest MMA promotion in the world. The UFC is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada and is owned and operated by Zuffa, LLC. This promotion is responsible for solidifying the sport's postion in the history-books.
UFC is currently undergoing a remarkable surge in popularity, along with greater mainstream media coverage. UFC programming can now be seen on FOX, FX, and FUEL TV in the United States, as well as in 35 other countries worldwide.
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02-03-2013, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MMA-Sportsman
Really? So it is alright to use the UFC spotlights to promote a certain brand of alcoholic beverage, brand of clothes, F*cking Metro PCS or even to hype a fight using personal attacks or repeatedly thowing obscene gestures at opponents live, but personal faith in God should never be disclosed? Interesting POV.
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Bud Light, Harley Davidson, and Metro PCS are apolitical business establishments that contribute to the revenue of the UFC and Zuffa. I see nothing wrong with having them being promoted as sponsors. If you do, please share your thoughts as to why.
And if you know anything about me or if you've read my posts, you'll know that I'm a vehement opponent of trash talk and obscene gestures being displayed during fights. I have never condoned such behavior, ever.
As I stated earlier, I have absolutely no problem with Henderson believing in any sort of religious dogma or subscribing to a particular religion. I have a problem with him using the pulpit of the UFC to promote such beliefs. Religion is an extremely personal and confrontational subject. By endorsing a particular religion or allowing it's fighters to use their elevated platform as a means to promote their religion, the UFC is actually risking quite a bit, especially in regards to securing revenue from apolitical and secular businesses that provide the UFC with a lot of Benjamin's.
I'm not religious at all and it bothers the hell out of me. But it's also bad for business.
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02-03-2013, 09:19 PM
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#62 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ari
Bud Light, Harley Davidson, and Metro PCS are apolitical business establishments that contribute to the revenue of the UFC and Zuffa. I see nothing wrong with having them being promoted as sponsors. If you do, please share your thoughts as to why.
And if you know anything about me or if you've read my posts, you'll know that I'm a vehement opponent of trash talk and obscene gestures being displayed during fights. I have never condoned such behavior, ever.
As I stated earlier, I have absolutely no problem with Henderson believing in any sort of religious dogma or subscribing to a particular religion. I have a problem with him using the pulpit of the UFC to promote such beliefs. Religion is an extremely personal and confrontational subject. By endorsing a particular religion or allowing it's fighters to use their elevated platform as a means to promote their religion, the UFC is actually risking quite a bit, especially in regards to securing revenue from apolitical and secular businesses that provide the UFC with a lot of Benjamin's.
I'm not religious at all and it bothers the hell out of me. But it's also bad for business.
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Again, how is thanking god after a fight promoting his religion? You act like he's telling us there's gonna be a service next sunday and we should all come or feel the wrath of satan.
He doesn't force anything on us. He gives his thanks to his religion and moves on. The only people that linger on it are the in-tolerant hate mongers.
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02-03-2013, 09:45 PM
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Frankie Edgar is my favorite fighter !!
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Originally Posted by Ari
Bud Light, Harley Davidson, and Metro PCS are apolitical business establishments that contribute to the revenue of the UFC and Zuffa. I see nothing wrong with having them being promoted as sponsors. If you do, please share your thoughts as to why.
And if you know anything about me or if you've read my posts, you'll know that I'm a vehement opponent of trash talk and obscene gestures being displayed during fights. I have never condoned such behavior, ever.
As I stated earlier, I have absolutely no problem with Henderson believing in any sort of religious dogma or subscribing to a particular religion. I have a problem with him using the pulpit of the UFC to promote such beliefs. Religion is an extremely personal and confrontational subject. By endorsing a particular religion or allowing it's fighters to use their elevated platform as a means to promote their religion, the UFC is actually risking quite a bit, especially in regards to securing revenue from apolitical and secular businesses that provide the UFC with a lot of Benjamin's.
I'm not religious at all and it bothers the hell out of me. But it's also bad for business.
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Apolitical?
Harley Davidson supports The Salvation Army, which is alarmingly pro-life and anti-gay.
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02-04-2013, 12:27 AM
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Bud Light, Harley Davidson, and Metro PCS are apolitical business establishments....
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There's no such thing as an apolitical business establishment. Not a single one...
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Originally Posted by Ari
And if you know anything about me or if you've read my posts, you'll know that I'm a vehement opponent of trash talk and obscene gestures being displayed during fights. I have never condoned such behavior, ever.
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Sorry about that. It really wasn't my intention to imply you support such behaviors. I was just trying to bring elements to the argument, but looked like I was accusing you. My bad choice or words, but bottom line is I didn't mean it. 
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02-04-2013, 11:00 AM
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The King of Apes
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Who is that crazy bitch?
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02-04-2013, 11:28 AM
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Who is that crazy bitch?
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I think it's Tyron Woodleys mom. I remember seeing her in the audience, screaming halleluja, praise Jesus & stuff like that while jumping around like a fat little toad.
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02-04-2013, 11:42 AM
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You're Welcome.
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Dat weave...
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02-04-2013, 12:09 PM
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The King of Apes
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02-04-2013, 12:38 PM
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Godspeed and party on!
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Location: Cleveland OH
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Originally Posted by Ari
As I stated earlier, I have absolutely no problem with Henderson believing in any sort of religious dogma or subscribing to a particular religion. I have a problem with him using the pulpit of the UFC to promote such beliefs. Religion is an extremely personal and confrontational subject. By endorsing a particular religion or allowing it's fighters to use their elevated platform as a means to promote their religion, the UFC is actually risking quite a bit, especially in regards to securing revenue from apolitical and secular businesses that provide the UFC with a lot of Benjamin's.
I'm not religious at all and it bothers the hell out of me. But it's also bad for business.
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This! Religion should be something practiced in the privacy of your own home. Every person has the right to believe in what he or she wants, but when I watch a fight I don't want to see a fighter go on and on about God, save it for Sunday school.
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02-04-2013, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MMA-Sportsman
There's no such thing as an apolitical business establishment. Not a single one...
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Sorry about that. It really wasn't my intention to imply you support such behaviors. I was just trying to bring elements to the argument, but looked like I was accusing you. My bad choice or words, but bottom line is I didn't mean it. 
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Do you consider the UFC a political business establishment?
The fact remains, Bud Light, and Harley Davidson are usng their agreement with the UFC as a means of promoting a consumer product, not a political agenda. I will reiterate how easily combustible the subject of religion is. By thanking "god" and saying in a very animated fashion that "I can do all things THROUGH CHRIST" after each victry, Henderson is implying that there is a god and that he can fight at such a high level "because of HIM". I find that notion personally offensive, as someone who rejects the idea of an omnipotent god and as someone who rejects the divine legitimacy of the Bible. I get that the idea of Christianity is to "spread the word" but religion (like one's sex life) and public life should not be symbiotic, they should be seperate. Henderson has every right to be a Christian and to practice his fath or thank his god. In private.
The UFC enjoys a reputation as being a secular, apolitical establishmnt that draws from a diverse crowd across the political, cultural, and religious spectrum. Allowing such vibrant expressions of faith that Ben Henderson engage in could endanger this status and possibly put the UFC in a bad light.
And no worries buddy  No offense taken. I just didn't want you to get the wrong idea about me.
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