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Old 02-03-2013, 02:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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My personal top ten.

1. GSP
2. Hendricks.
3. Condit
4. Maia
5. Fitch
6. Kampmann
7. Ellenberger
8. Diaz
9. Rory
10. Tarec

If Hendricks wins then they should do GSP/Hendricks and Maia can be Tarec's first fight in the UFC, winner gets a title shot against GSP or Hendricks, if Hendricks loses do GSP/Maia and Berger/Tarec.
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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For me personally if I had to rank the Welterweights it would be

1. GSP
2. Johnny Hendricks
3. Carlos Condit
4. Nick Diaz
5. Rory Macdonald
6. Demian Maia
7. Martin Kampmann
8. Jake Ellenberger
9. Jon Fitch
10. Tarec Saffiedine
11. Tyron Woodley
12. Josh Koscheck
13. Nate Marquardt
14. Dong Hyun Kim
15. Mike Pierce
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17. Mike Pyle
18. Matt Brown
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44. Caude Patrick
45. Gunnar Nelson
46. Che Mills
47. Pascal Krauss
48. Jason High
49. Robert Whittaker
50. Nick Catone
51. Sean Pierson
52. Chris Clements
53. Justin Edwards
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58: Adam Khaliev
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Maia/Tarec makes some sense at the moment. Most of the other top WW are busy, this fight could give either guy some momentum towards a title shot.
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I agree with LL's rankings.

If Hendricks beats Ellenberger, he definitely deserves a title shot. I think he deserves on right now, but the UFC brass seems more interested in making money than honoring the legitimacy of the sport.
Maia should get Tarec in my opinion. Winner should get a title shot and it would be a fun fight. If Hendricks loses, however, give Maia the title shot.
Woodley should get Koscheck.
Fitch should get Hieron.
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I agree with LL's rankings.

If Hendricks beats Ellenberger, he definitely deserves a title shot. I think he deserves on right now, but the UFC brass seems more interested in making money than honoring the legitimacy of the sport.
Maia should get Tarec in my opinion. Winner should get a title shot and it would be a fun fight. If Hendricks loses, however, give Maia the title shot.
Woodley should get Koscheck.
Fitch should get Hieron.
Hieron should fight a can not Fitch.
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Thoughts on these fights?

GSP - Hendricks
Maia - Rory
Diaz - Marquardt
Koscheck - Saffidine
Woodley - Pierce
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:36 AM   #17 (permalink)
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My personal top twenty five at this point

1. GSP
2. Carlos Condit
3. Johny Hendricks
4. Rory Macdonald
5. Nick Diaz
6. Demain Maia
7. Josh Koscheck
8. Jon Fitch
9. Martin Kampmann
10. Tarec Saffiedine
11. Mike Pierce
12. Nate Marquardt
13. Jake Ellenberger
14. Tyron Woodley
15. Mike Pyle
16. John Hathaway
17. Siyar Bahadurza
18. Erick Silva
19. Dong Hyun Kim
(Brian Ebersole)*
20. Thiago Alves
21. Seth Baczynski
22. Matt Brown
23. Rick Story
24. Claude Patrick
25. Dan Hardy
*Ebersole is moving to LW

And the top ten fights I would like to see based on these rankings

10. Dan Hardy(25) vs Thiago Alves(20), I think the UFC is only big enough for one former title contending slugger. This is a fight that could main event in Brazil or England and go five rounds to a finish.

09. Jake Ellenberger(13) vs John Hathaway(16), You look at Jakes record against wrestlers and...well....he doesn't have much in the way of them. I'm not sold on Jake as a top ten guy I think Hathaway would crush his cardio and continue to expose the many holes in his game.

08. Claude Patrick(24) vs Erick Silva(18) I feel like this could be a future trilogy in the making. Both guys are well rounded explosive and main card stays. This could be the WW version of Fisher/Stout.

07. Mike Pierce(11) vs Nate Marquardt(12) Personally I feel like Pierce is the top ten gatekeeper of the WW division. Nate's a big time star but I wonder if he can handle the deep waters of the division. This could also give Pierce a chance to break out at the WW divisions best kept secret.

06. Demain Maia(6) vs Nick Diaz(5) I feel like Maia is a win away from facing GSP. I also think he could be the biggest threat GSP has ever faced. The real issue is Maia's standup and the best boxer in the top ten today is Diaz. A post title fight from Diaz makes a lot of sense to me.

05. Tarec Saffiedine (10) vs Martin Kampmann (9) Martin Kampmann may in fact never fight for a title but he can face every guy who will fight for the title. I imagine this fight will be sponsored by K-1 and we will not see any takedowns.

04. Rory Macdonald(4) vs Tyron Woodley(14) Ever wonder what an MMA fight of Apollo Creed vs Clubber Lang would look like? Put this baby on Fox play those slow replay shots and enjoy the pain. Even if Woodley loses I doubt he would lose any ground.

03. Josh Koscheck(7) vs Jon Fitch(8) The division is only big enough for one of these guys. Fitch is showing a lot of wear and tear on him while Koscheck seems to be set at a certain level.

02. Johny Hendricks(3) vs Yoshiro Akiyama(UR) because one loses upwards and the other wins downwards and seeing these two fight would be hilarious.

01. Carlos Condit(2) vs GSP(1) II The number one fight I want to see is the rematch between these two. I feel like Carlos gets better everytime we see him while GSP gets stronger. GSP may have a number of contenders but few actually give you exciting matches, Condit does and I would like to see him rewarded with another shot at some point.
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So Maia has just learned how to wrestle and was already able to outwrestle John Fitch, the wrestler? Maia didn't Fitch John Fitch. Maia Maia(ed) John Fitch.
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My personal top twenty five at this point

1. GSP
2. Carlos Condit
3. Johny Hendricks
4. Rory Macdonald
5. Nick Diaz
6. Demain Maia
7. Josh Koscheck
8. Jon Fitch
9. Martin Kampmann
10. Tarec Saffiedine
11. Mike Pierce
12. Nate Marquardt
13. Jake Ellenberger
14. Tyron Woodley
15. Mike Pyle
16. John Hathaway
17. Siyar Bahadurza
18. Erick Silva
19. Dong Hyun Kim
(Brian Ebersole)*
20. Thiago Alves
21. Seth Baczynski
22. Matt Brown
23. Rick Story
24. Claude Patrick
25. Dan Hardy
*Ebersole is moving to LW

And the top ten fights I would like to see based on these rankings

10. Dan Hardy(25) vs Thiago Alves(20), I think the UFC is only big enough for one former title contending slugger. This is a fight that could main event in Brazil or England and go five rounds to a finish.

09. Jake Ellenberger(13) vs John Hathaway(16), You look at Jakes record against wrestlers and...well....he doesn't have much in the way of them. I'm not sold on Jake as a top ten guy I think Hathaway would crush his cardio and continue to expose the many holes in his game.

08. Claude Patrick(24) vs Erick Silva(18) I feel like this could be a future trilogy in the making. Both guys are well rounded explosive and main card stays. This could be the WW version of Fisher/Stout.

07. Mike Pierce(11) vs Nate Marquardt(12) Personally I feel like Pierce is the top ten gatekeeper of the WW division. Nate's a big time star but I wonder if he can handle the deep waters of the division. This could also give Pierce a chance to break out at the WW divisions best kept secret.

06. Demain Maia(6) vs Nick Diaz(5) I feel like Maia is a win away from facing GSP. I also think he could be the biggest threat GSP has ever faced. The real issue is Maia's standup and the best boxer in the top ten today is Diaz. A post title fight from Diaz makes a lot of sense to me.

05. Tarec Saffiedine (10) vs Martin Kampmann (9) Martin Kampmann may in fact never fight for a title but he can face every guy who will fight for the title. I imagine this fight will be sponsored by K-1 and we will not see any takedowns.

04. Rory Macdonald(4) vs Tyron Woodley(14) Ever wonder what an MMA fight of Apollo Creed vs Clubber Lang would look like? Put this baby on Fox play those slow replay shots and enjoy the pain. Even if Woodley loses I doubt he would lose any ground.

03. Josh Koscheck(7) vs Jon Fitch(8) The division is only big enough for one of these guys. Fitch is showing a lot of wear and tear on him while Koscheck seems to be set at a certain level.

02. Johny Hendricks(3) vs Yoshiro Akiyama(UR) because one loses upwards and the other wins downwards and seeing these two fight would be hilarious.

01. Carlos Condit(2) vs GSP(1) II The number one fight I want to see is the rematch between these two. I feel like Carlos gets better everytime we see him while GSP gets stronger. GSP may have a number of contenders but few actually give you exciting matches, Condit does and I would like to see him rewarded with another shot at some point.
Great post. Just curious though, why is Siyar above Stun Gun, Matt Brown and Silva?
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I just don't understand how people are putting Saffedine over Woodley when Saffedines only credible win is over Marquardt..

Woddley has defeated Saffedine.. as well as Heiron and Daley..
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