Brock Vs unroided Overeem? (same overeem that got KOd by bigfoot) - Page 2 - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
UFC The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is a U.S.-based mixed martial arts organization, recognized as the largest MMA promotion in the world. The UFC is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada and is owned and operated by Zuffa, LLC. This promotion is responsible for solidifying the sport's postion in the history-books. UFC is currently undergoing a remarkable surge in popularity, along with greater mainstream media coverage. UFC programming can now be seen on FOX, FX, and FUEL TV in the United States, as well as in 35 other countries worldwide.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #11 of 72 (permalink) Old 02-05-2013, 04:04 PM
Welterweight
 
Woodenhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,043
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by OU View Post
No, it really, really wasn't. I hate that myth. Even when it got busted it still lives on. Makes me sick.
Agreed. Brock was always Brock. The signs were always there. People need to wake up to that fact.
Woodenhead is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #12 of 72 (permalink) Old 02-05-2013, 06:04 PM
It's a league game, Smokey
 
Ape City's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Planet of the Apes
Posts: 8,194
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by OU View Post
No, it really, really wasn't. I hate that myth. Even when it got busted it still lives on. Makes me sick.
ya me too. Brock was exactly the same as before. he got outclassed due to skill in his last two fights. its just as annoying as people claiming overeem lost because he isnt on roids anymore. i guess it was the roided overeem that kicked bigfoots ass for two rounds

Sent from my SGH-I727R using VerticalSports.Com App


mad props: Toxic
Ape City is offline  
post #13 of 72 (permalink) Old 02-05-2013, 06:08 PM
Heavyweight
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,638
                     
Thinking Brock was the same after having major surgery and a serious disease is just plain ignorant. Does your premium membership allow you to be so ridiculous?
rabakill is offline  
post #14 of 72 (permalink) Old 02-05-2013, 06:18 PM
It's a league game, Smokey
 
Ape City's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Planet of the Apes
Posts: 8,194
                     
Assuming there was something wrong when Brock himself said he was back to 100% is just plain stupid.

I had major surgery 2 years ago. Can I blame future athletic failings on that?

Brock fans are so blinded by their love for him that they fail to recognize the only difference between Brock pre and post op was who he was fighting. Brock went 1-1 with Mir and beat old man Couture. Brock had one legit win and he got it by hammer fisting Mir. Fast forward to post op and Brock faces Carwin, who he actually does well against.

So why did Brock do so well in the Carwin fight if his illness was affecting him oh so badly? Brock overcame adversity and an unbelievable amount of punishment from Shane to come back and win.

Guess Brocks illness only affects him when he loses (or maybe it was because Brock was a one trick pony, but hey I am pretty ridiculous, don't listen to me).


mad props: Toxic
Ape City is offline  
post #15 of 72 (permalink) Old 02-05-2013, 06:56 PM
Flyweight
 
Hexabob69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Chesapeake VA
Posts: 459
                     
Using that same logic one could say Carwin lost because of the pain (he later had surgery as well) he was having; not his lack of conditioning. Anyone else toking that pipe logic?

The Bass Minor
Hexabob69 is offline  
post #16 of 72 (permalink) Old 02-05-2013, 07:26 PM
Heavyweight
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,638
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ape City View Post
Assuming there was something wrong when Brock himself said he was back to 100% is just plain stupid.

I had major surgery 2 years ago. Can I blame future athletic failings on that?

Brock fans are so blinded by their love for him that they fail to recognize the only difference between Brock pre and post op was who he was fighting. Brock went 1-1 with Mir and beat old man Couture. Brock had one legit win and he got it by hammer fisting Mir. Fast forward to post op and Brock faces Carwin, who he actually does well against.

So why did Brock do so well in the Carwin fight if his illness was affecting him oh so badly? Brock overcame adversity and an unbelievable amount of punishment from Shane to come back and win.

Guess Brocks illness only affects him when he loses (or maybe it was because Brock was a one trick pony, but hey I am pretty ridiculous, don't listen to me).
it's all nonsense, you think it is reasonable but it's pure nonsense. So what you had surgery, did you ever have part of your colon removed then get kicked their by Overeem 6 months later? Saying he's the same guy is freaking insane, he literally had 12 inches of tissue removed from his insides. No one here is talking about his performances, he always sucked at fighting, you're are just spewing ignorance and bias.
rabakill is offline  
post #17 of 72 (permalink) Old 02-05-2013, 07:27 PM
Lightweight
 
dlxrevolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,500
                     
All of these situational fighters are getting pretty ridiculous. If there was an 8 man tournament between Pre-illness Brock, unroided Reem, Second Rd Struve, K1 Maia, Fat and Out of shape Munoz, motivated Penn, Pre-Serra GSP,and Hashad 2.0, I'd put all of my money on The Shogun of PRIDE.
dlxrevolution is offline  
post #18 of 72 (permalink) Old 02-05-2013, 07:32 PM
Flyweight
 
Hexabob69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Chesapeake VA
Posts: 459
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by dlxrevolution View Post
All of these situational fighters are getting pretty ridiculous. If there was an 8 man tournament between Pre-illness Brock, unroided Reem, Second Rd Struve, K1 Maia, Fat and Out of shape Munoz, motivated Penn, Pre-Serra GSP,and Hashad 2.0, I'd put all of my money on The Shogun of PRIDE.

When is that card coming... I want the PPV!!

The Bass Minor
Hexabob69 is offline  
post #19 of 72 (permalink) Old 02-05-2013, 07:38 PM
Flyweight
 
duckyou666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 322
                     
Thing is, Reem, as overrated as I think he is, destroys Brock, who was equally overrated. You put Brock in Silva's place in the last fight, there is no 3rd round. Hell, I'd be shocked if it made it out of round 1.
duckyou666 is offline  
post #20 of 72 (permalink) Old 02-05-2013, 08:16 PM
It's a league game, Smokey
 
Ape City's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Planet of the Apes
Posts: 8,194
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by rabakill View Post
it's all nonsense, you think it is reasonable but it's pure nonsense. So what you had surgery, did you ever have part of your colon removed then get kicked their by Overeem 6 months later? Saying he's the same guy is freaking insane, he literally had 12 inches of tissue removed from his insides. No one here is talking about his performances, he always sucked at fighting, you're are just spewing ignorance and bias.
So how on earth can you attribute being beaten down by the current HW champion Cain to a medical issue if you think he always sucked? What would have been different had it been pre-surgery if you acknowledge the skill wasn't there in the first place? You are simply creating a correlation between two events and ignoring the simplest explanation, which I highlighted in your post.

And you still haven't explained how this post surgery Lesnar was able to survive an onslaught from Carwin and go on to win in the second.

Look, i'm not trying to argue he was literally not affected by his illness and surgery. I'm sure he was. But to automatically make a correlation between his performances post surgery is silly, especially when Lesnar stated he was 100%. Add to that Lesnar did well versus Carwin and i'm not even sure why anyone argues about this. I would say Carwin was the best win of Lesnar's career, and that was his first fight back. I again acknowledge that the surgery must have affected him, but he came back and won.


mad props: Toxic
Ape City is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome