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Lyoto Machida 44 64.71%
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post #211 of 336 (permalink) Old 02-24-2013, 03:50 AM
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I think Machida loses a kickboxing match to Gustaffson 9 out of 10. Not domination by any means but Gustaff would engage more and have a higher output. He'd win a close decision. BUT if Machida were to use his takedowns like he did in the past, I see him getting the win.

Someone on his team needs to tell him to use trips more. If he used them tonight, he would have dominated. 30-27s across the board. But no. I guess he's content with sitting on the outside landing 1 or 2 punches every 3 mins.

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Machida would Ko Glover. Or hit him a lot for 3 rounds. Gusta would have troubles due to Machidas speed
Just like Henderson? Are you kidding? Anytime Lyoto faces anyone with any kind of power he dances around on the outside and casts spells. He never even came close to stop slow ass Henderson and he didn't even hit him that much. He would look like a fool against Glover full object kalib starns.

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That's how Lyoto fights, but you can't always KO people. Case being Anderson vs Maia, Thales or a better example against Cote. Anderson did hit Cote, but he took it. Same with Hendo tonight. He absorbed some pretty hard shots. What about that mid kick, knee counter, front kicks, and then that huge left high kick where Hendo just smiled. These were the same moves that hurt everybody else; Rashad, Bader, and Randy.

I get the frustration. I do, but this was NOT a fight for Machida to engage unintelligently because he would lose badly. Could his out put have been more... Sure, that also would have put him within Hendo's kill zone. I saw those H-bombs whiz right past his face...inches away. It's no joke man.

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I think Machida loses a kickboxing match to Gustaffson 9 out of 10. Not domination by any means but Gustaff would engage more and have a higher output. He'd win a close decision. BUT if Machida were to use his takedowns like he did in the past, I see him getting the win.

Someone on his team needs to tell him to use trips more. If he used them tonight, he would have dominated. 30-27s across the board. But no. I guess he's content with sitting on the outside landing 1 or 2 punches every 3 mins.
I'm not too sold on Gustaffson yet. From the Shogun fight hes showed a few too many holes which a crafty guy like Machida could exploit. If Machida can keep the standup fairly even with a guy like Jones who KNOWS how to use his length, I put at odds with a guy is only ok at it.

I agree entirely with the trips. He's an absolute ninja with them, but he only seems to be able to bust them out occasionally which is a shame cause his GnP seems pretty accurate.
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this was the worst fight i have ever seen... seriously Machida? that's your game plan? to avoid fighting at all costs.. he was obviously better but obviously scared and barely did anything offensively.. he may have landed more, but 2-3 punches a round doesn't out weigh Dans aggression and octagon control.. at least Dan was trying to make it a fight

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Like Rogan said, you either appreciate Lyoto or you don't... I do and I really enjoyed this fight. His techniques are more varied and trickier than ever, he's fitter than ever, Machida is a joy to watch.

Exchanges were few but they were absolute quality, if it weren't for Hendo's experience and abnormal toughness, you'd have seen Machida score a KO tonight. Via either head or body, those knees to the body were brutal and I was surprised Hendo took that more than twice.

I'd like to see Machida look for more takedowns, like if he gets to the third round and hasn't landed a kill shot, look for a trip. That trip in the first round was beautiful, Hendo is hard to budge has a great base, Lyoto made him fly, followed him down and landed two hard punches from mid air. I think we'd have seen a stoppage from there if not so late in the round.

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hendo has not been a good grappler since pride unfortunately he's really easy to take down these days even shogun took him down, it's really a shame


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Just like Henderson? Are you kidding? Anytime Lyoto faces anyone with any kind of power he dances around on the outside and casts spells. He never even came close to stop slow ass Henderson and he didn't even hit him that much. He would look like a fool against Glover full object kalib starns.

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I never said Lyoto would ever KO Hendo, lets be real.

I'm not sold on Glover yet. Sure he hits hard, but someone as crafty as Machida will expose him. Machida hit Dan with more signifciant strikes. Glover is soo overrated it;s not even funny



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this was the worst fight i have ever seen... seriously Machida? that's your game plan? to avoid fighting at all costs.. he was obviously better but obviously scared and barely did anything offensively.. he may have landed more, but 2-3 punches a round doesn't out weigh Dans aggression and octagon control.. at least Dan was trying to make it a fight

pathetic
Have you ever watched grandmasters in chess play before. Sometimes no one will draw blood til hours into a game while all the positions are in place. I really didn't want to say anything blunt, but man you guys should look at this with an open mind. His feints, movements were all designed to get a reaction. Hendo is too experienced to fall into those traps the way Rashad, Thiago Silva, Sokoudjou who trains at Team Quest, and of course Bader...all whom he hurt with the same techniques.

It's really too bad cuz I guarantee if one of em got the finish it would have been "a great fight." Look I hated the fact Overeem lost, but it didn't make it less of a fight.

Hahah...right this second I just realized what drove CC and BC bat crazy...lolz. I don't need to defend anybody. You like it or you don't. That's it. I do...I think it's martial arts at its highest form, however there's one other fighter who's achieved a higher mastery at a division lower.
That individual can finish fights AT WILL including Hendo.

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Well, thank God that wasn't the main event. Lyoto did his usual thing and it would have been an outstanding performance if he had finished Dan but that wasn't going to happen anytime soon. Henderson's nickname should be The Immovable Object.




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