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post #221 of 336 (permalink) Old 02-24-2013, 07:51 AM
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It's already been said it wasn't his best fight but still it was a good performance by Machida. Elusive and accurate. As a karate practitioner I thought it was an excellent game plan. To everyone complaining about Machidas fighting style, why don't you stand there and take a right hand from Hendo then come back tell me that Machida is a ***** for dancing around. He is smart. Delivering the most strikes while avoiding his opponent... Sorta the point of the game.


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He also desperately needs to learn to use his karate to generate offense instead of avoiding engaging. I thought his fight against Bader was brilliant. But this Machida was far from impressive.

I'm big fans of both of these guys but after this I'm very disappointed.
^^^^^ This is the core of all frustration regarding Machida. He lives and breathes Shotokan Karate from his babyhood. He is a master at that with family legacy. Shotokan Karate is a self defense martial art in its core and a great percentage of Karate practice has philosophical pourposes comparable to Yoga or Tai Chi Chuan. The adaptation to a combat sport, where attacks are expected is just like erasing your entire hard disk to replace your original Operating System.
It is so rare to see originally Shotokan Karate masters engaging in any sport because Karate phylosophy itself prevents that. Note I didn't say Karate practitioners, as there are crosstraining, but an originally Shotokan Karate master, who has the responsibility to carry on teaching his discipules the self defense phylosophy of the art.

Machida Karate System is the best adaptation so far to make Karate a sport attacking martial art, but this is what we get. Sure Machida can hurt and KO ppl as he has proven, but he is not a counter striker merely by choice or because he is afraid of getting hit, it is because he is a Shotokan Karate Master, simple as that. To demand Machida works out of his martial art envelope is the same as demanding Fitch to keep the fight standing or to Anderson to wrestle with wrestlers.

You want Machida to engage? Make your offensive move effectvely, don't get tagged in your way in. Otherwise be prepared for being co-responsible for boring (yet technical) fight criticism.


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Machidas's gameplan was pefect. Moving around and atacking when possible.

He was very well on the ground as well, putting down and atacking in the final seconds of the first round (lucky Henderson) and defending at the third round. In the last round he just slipped, Hendo doesnt have any credit here (thats why I think Machida won the last round too).
Thats why I think he is better now. He is training with a 10 times world BJJ champion, Roger Gracie.

If you think that style is boring, just turn off the TV... But its very effective and its the Karate Shotokan style, Machida´s cant change this.
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So, people wanted Machida to brawl against Hendo?

Yeah, because that works really well for people!!!!







Machida did what he ad to do.
It's not rocket science:
you can't knock Hendo out
you can't play his game

Clear 29-28 to Machida,
a shame that it was a split, should have been unanimous.

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Unless you are Andy then you just walk through his H-Bomb and beat the shit out of him.
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Unless you are Andy then you just walk through his H-Bomb and beat the shit out of him.
when did he do that? i don't recall hendo ever landed the H bomb on andy unless your talking about that off balance no power right he landed with not much venom on it that marcthegame keeps showing us in gif form


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Kind of BS Machida won the fight and is stealing a title shot. He should have lost to Hendo for the same reason he lost to Rampage....he didn't push the pace at all. Of course he is going to land a bigger strike when he's just standing there and his opponent has to come at him 100% of the time. If Machida's opponent did the same thing, everyone would be standing around for 15 minutes.

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I agree with most here that it wasn't highly entertaining. But with that being said, Machida did his thing and Made Hendo frustrated and confused. Machida landed nice counters and defended all of but 1 take-down's.

It was a real easy fight to score 29-28 Machida. But I don't see Machida earning a title shot with this performance.

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So, people wanted Machida to brawl against Hendo?
Can people just shut up about people wanting a brawl? Not one person on this whole forum since that fight said that. So why the hell say it? Just to make stuff up?

We wanted him to fight. I understand his style, but sometimes it gets a bit ridiculous. If people can get warned and stood up for not doing anything....fighters should get warned and placed on the ground when they aren't doing anything standing.

People should refuse to fight Machida. No one should want to be in a crappy fight. No one should want to fight Machida. If you aren't an easy KO target like Randy or Bader then it is going to be a pathetic kick and run fight.
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Kind of BS Machida won the fight and is stealing a title shot. He should have lost to Hendo for the same reason he lost to Rampage....he didn't push the pace at all. Of course he is going to land a bigger strike when he's just standing there and his opponent has to come at him 100% of the time. If Machida's opponent did the same thing, everyone would be standing around for 15 minutes.
That's the whole point.

His fighting style is designed to force people into making mistakes he takes advantage of. Anderson is the same way.


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