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post #241 of 336 (permalink) Old 02-24-2013, 12:06 PM
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Jake weighted on at 185 for that fight, much bigger than 170 jake.
The fact that he survived the H-Bomb can be considered a miracle and by any means, not a great example for other fighters to follow.

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As a Machida fan this fight was very disappointing.. i understand what he was doing and why he was doing it but god damn that was hard to watch.. neither fighter deserved the win here..

it was just too painfully obvious that he was scared of the H-bomb, he didn't even try to hide it.. cowardice approach

only way im going to forgive Machida for this is if he dethrones Bones...

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He was just doing what he had to, not being scared of the H-Bomb just means you are an idiot.
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As a Machida fan this fight was very disappointing.. i understand what he was doing and why he was doing it but god damn that was hard to watch.. neither fighter deserved the win here..

it was just too painfully obvious that he was scared of the H-bomb, he didn't even try to hide it.. cowardice approach

only way im going to forgive Machida for this is if he dethrones Bones...
Hopefully chael will be the one that.

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post #245 of 336 (permalink) Old 02-24-2013, 01:11 PM
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Maybe I just don't like Karate. Or Machida Karate.

Isn't wonderboy a karate guy? I don't dislike other karate styles....they don't exactly run backwards. They sit down and throw, while having great head movement and timing.

The funniest part of this whole thing is there were a decent amount of people who picked Machida by stoppage. I guess because he stopped 2 goofballs with ease. Machida stopping Hendo was 1 out of 1000. But maybe no one was serious. I offered a bet saying Machida will not stop Hendo. Offered good odds as well. No one wanted that bet. Maybe everyone knew Machida stopping Hendo was a joke/dream.
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Anderson is in no way the same way. He will get mad and unleash leg kick after leg kick. He will stalk and corner. How often do you see Anderson run backwards in circles? Like one fight ever? The Maia fight where he was just being a weirdo. When people come forward ANderson plants and returns fire while moving his head. Machida runs backwards pulling his head back....literally running backwards.

Anderson unleashes crazy combos and sits in the pocket using head movement.

Anderson at times is a counter puncher....but a totally different one. Their styles are very different.
Anderson doesn't run in circles, he forces people to make mistakes and he capitalizes just like Machida does, he just does it against lesser opponents.


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Anderson doesn't run in circles, he forces people to make mistakes and he capitalizes just like Machida does, he just does it against lesser opponents.
How does standing 1 inch out of range, while he easily slips his head....force people to make mistakes? He is just superior defensively.

He will stand right in front of you and slip your punches while still in the pocket. Then he will jab you and make you fall down.

Anderson front kicked Vitor in the first. Machide stole it and used it vs. an old man that had no business in that fight.

Anderson makes you look foolish and then destroys you. Machida makes himself look foolish and tries to out-point anyone with power...Rampage/Hendo.

Perhaps they both force you to make mistakes. But make no mistake...they do it in very different ways. Anderson will sit and let you punch him square in the face. Then he will destroy you.
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you can't compare Anderson and Machida, Anderson is on a whole other level striking wise.


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The thing that frustrated me more than anything was that it was obvious from the get go that Machida was the superior fighter. When Dan came in throwing those god awful kicks and swinging wildly, Machida had the chance for some huge couners but instead chose to back away. Machida also embarrassed Henderson in the clinch at the end of the first round. Why wouldn't he try and close the distance and get the trip? I understand that Henderson has nuclear hands, but there is a reason Machida only won by a split decision last night. I'm also all for fighters using the point system to their advantage but they need to show successful OFFENSE in order to gain those points. For most of the fight, Machida fought from an entirely defensive standpoint and he nearly lost the fight because of it. He needs to learn to be more active against guys like Rampage and Henderson, otherwise he's going to lose fights that he shouldn't be losing.
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The problem is Machida's fighting style has a limited number of striking techniques, and all of them put him in the path of Hendo's right hand. Yes, he managed to get in and land a few times, but there's only so many times he can do that before his luck runs out and he gets timed by Hendo and knocked into next week.

If Machida had a jab or lead hook especially from the orthodox stance, he could safely hit Hendo all night long while moving away from the right hand. But he doesn't have those techniques in his arsenal. And that's why he had to fight the way he did.
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