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Yushin Okami 13 37.14%
Hector Lombard 22 62.86%
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Old 03-01-2013, 02:40 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Okami has improved his wrestling a lot more sense the Munoz fight. I think Lombard will come out strong and gas. Okami wins this.
You may be right. And I have stated that Okami can win if he takes him into deeper waters and makes him work.

But aside from gassing? I don't think very many guys at 185 are taking Lombard down. His Judo base is too good, couple that with his sheer power and stature and it is hard to get him down. His thighs/legs are so powerful it is ridiculous.

I do think Lombard is an overrated striker. But there is no denying his explosiveness and power. He is a good enough striker to utilize his power. Okami is a jabber.

Lombard could show up like he did vs. Boetsch and not be aggressive, but you would think he would have learned from that. If Lombard comes out ready and aggressive, I don't see how Okami survives.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:36 PM   #42 (permalink)
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You may be right. And I have stated that Okami can win if he takes him into deeper waters and makes him work.

But aside from gassing? I don't think very many guys at 185 are taking Lombard down. His Judo base is too good, couple that with his sheer power and stature and it is hard to get him down. His thighs/legs are so powerful it is ridiculous.

I do think Lombard is an overrated striker. But there is no denying his explosiveness and power. He is a good enough striker to utilize his power. Okami is a jabber.

Lombard could show up like he did vs. Boetsch and not be aggressive, but you would think he would have learned from that. If Lombard comes out ready and aggressive, I don't see how Okami survives.
If Lombard comes in like he did against Palhares, Okami will grab a hold of him and drag Lombard down. Okami is strong as hell, so is Lombard, but Okami is much bigger.
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If Lombard comes in like he did against Palhares, Okami will grab a hold of him and drag Lombard down. Okami is strong as hell, so is Lombard, but Okami is much bigger.
Okami is taller, Lombard is stronger.

He isn't going to just drag down a Olympic Judoka whenever he wants.

We will see who is right come Saturday.
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Old 03-01-2013, 03:49 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I still believe okami has more strength based off of past fights
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:16 PM   #45 (permalink)
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lol @ this strength argument still going on. You haven't grappled with Okami, you've got no idea how strong he is. I bet no one on this forum would have predicted Mark Hunt to beat Bob Sapp in a strong man contest, but he did.

Strength is some thing (unless the two competed in a strong man contest against each other) that needs to be felt first hand to get a good gauge on how strong they really are. It isn't like assessesing their speed or stand up skills which can be evaluated from a camera and video footage, actual strength is much tougher to actually analyse and unless you have grappled with Okami first hand, please stop stating that he is stronger than Lombard as if it's some kind of fact, because it isn't.

If I had to guess, I'd say Lombard was the more physically stronger man. His thickness and build is ridiculous, he has legs like tree trunks (similar to Mark Hunt). We also have Tim Boetch's word on Hector. He said that trying to take Lombard down was like running into a brick wall, he was almost impossible to move or take off balance in the clinch. Timmy didn't say the same thing about Okami when they fought.

But again, most of this is just guess work, I haven't grappled with either guy, neither have any of us, so you can't just state that fighter A is stronger than fighter B as if it's some kind of fact.
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Old 03-01-2013, 04:59 PM   #46 (permalink)
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We also have Tim Boetch's word on Hector. He said that trying to take Lombard down was like running into a brick wall, he was almost impossible to move or take off balance in the clinch. Timmy didn't say the same thing about Okami when they fought.
This is what I failed to post. We all liked Boetsch's move to 185 because he can physically manhandle a certain % of guys. When he first moved down we thought of him as one of the strongest in the division. Lombard in a less than stellar performance looked stronger vs. Boetsch than Okami did when Boetsch went through 2.5 rounds of getting beat on the feet. Boetsch grabbed Okami's neck and he couldn't get away then a series of uppercuts eventually finished him.

Who cares who is stronger. Okami is at his best when he can physically beat you with his size and grappling. Lombard is no Marquardt or Belcher. Okami will have a hard time imposing his grappling like he usually does...unless it is later and Lombard gasses.

Okami should stick and move all fist round to frustrate Lombard and tiring him. Then go the grappling route later in the fight.
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Old 03-01-2013, 07:15 PM   #47 (permalink)
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exactly, if okami can stick and move for the first round, not only will he tire lombard but frustrate him as well.. then in the second a well timed takedown and gringing pace to keeping him down will tire him even more to about 40%..

after that he has two rounds in the bag and a third to go with very little dangerous threat left over...

too bad okami isnt the smartest fighter, like mir he is unable to read and adapt.. i see a first or second round finish for lombard
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:52 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Here they are the night before the fight in the weigh in staredown (Okami takes stare down kinda literally):

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Old 03-02-2013, 04:26 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Okami about to derail another hype train.

I thought it was already derailed....
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Old 03-02-2013, 11:53 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I'll be rooting for Hector purely for the emergence of another contender, but it's really not beyond Okami's abilities to grind out a decision victory.
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