[UFC_OWNS]

Originally Posted by Killz

Kongo is not exactly renound for his takedowns and grappling to be fair.

he has been a pain in the ass to people like cro cop when he was raw in the ufc and not terrible yet, mitrione, browne and jordan and he did survived 3 rounds with cain but not even 2 minutes with mark who shrugged him off then easily ko'd him.

[OU]

Originally Posted by hellholming

Huntoo by Knockoutoooo!

This.

[GrappleRetarded]

Originally Posted by Killz

Kongo is not exactly renound for his takedowns and grappling to be fair.

Kongo is actually renown for his grappling and take downs. The majority of Kongos UFC wins have been from dominating the clinch exchanges or scoring take downs and landing brutal GNP.

One of the biggest myths in MMA is that Kongo has no wrestling/grappling game. I've absolutely no idea where it came from, because it's completely false.

[HitOrGetHit]

Originally Posted by UFC_OWNS

umm what, did handling kongo with ease not show you things have changed with hunts grappling?

Sure he has improved, but I'm not going to take that fight and then suddenly think that Hunt is going to stuff all takedowns from here on out and start KOing everyone left and right. Struve has a huge chance to get this fight to the ground and Hunts grappling isn't even close to Struves.

[OU]

Originally Posted by GrappleRetarded

Kongo is actually renown for his grappling and take downs. The majority of Kongos UFC wins have been from dominating the clinch exchanges or scoring take downs and landing brutal GNP.

One of the biggest myths in MMA is that Kongo has no wrestling/grappling game. I've absolutely no idea where it came from, because it's completely false.

Completely disagree. Kongo's wrestling is pretty damn bad and he never out wrestles anyone with an ounce of grappling ability. He can only take down those with more pathetic ground game then his own. But that doesn't mean he is a good wrestler. He just takes advantage of even worse wrestlers. But his wrestling is pretty awful.

[jonnyg4508]

Originally Posted by GrappleRetarded

Kongo is actually renown for his grappling and take downs. The majority of Kongos UFC wins have been from dominating the clinch exchanges or scoring take downs and landing brutal GNP.

One of the biggest myths in MMA is that Kongo has no wrestling/grappling game. I've absolutely no idea where it came from, because it's completely false.

I pretty much agree with this. He is decent at everything. He won't out-strike the better strikers. He won't out-grapple the better grapplers. But given the chance he will clinch and try for TDs against the cage. He likes to pose as a great striker, but he often goes to clinch mode when things get rough.

Kongo is an overrated striker and underrated grappler. He ok at both. Which translates into an ok fighter. He rarely gets manhandled on the ground. He finds his way to his feet well.

[GrappleRetarded]

Originally Posted by OU

Completely disagree. Kongo's wrestling is pretty damn bad and he never out wrestles anyone with an ounce of grappling ability. He can only take down those with more pathetic ground game then his own. But that doesn't mean he is a good wrestler. He just takes advantage of even worse wrestlers. But his wrestling is pretty awful.

Where did I say Kongo was a good wrestler? I said he's renown for winning his fights with wrestling in the clinch and GNP from take downs. This is where most of his victories come from. I didn't say he was a good wrestler though.

He's a decent enough grappler and can out clinch and out wrestle most of the UFC HW roster. Saying he has no wrestling or grappling is simply false information and a myth, seeing as though most of his victories come from those exact methods.

[JWP]

Originally Posted by jonnyg4508

I pretty much agree with this. He is decent at everything. He won't out-strike the better strikers. He won't out-grapple the better grapplers. But given the chance he will clinch and try for TDs against the cage. He likes to pose as a great striker, but he often goes to clinch mode when things get rough.

Kongo is an overrated striker and underrated grappler. He ok at both. Which translates into an ok fighter. He rarely gets manhandled on the ground. He finds his way to his feet well.

well said

cmon Mark, make me happy again!

[BrutalKO]

...Ahhh the poll is getting tight. Looks like a pick em' for sure. Struve on the ground, Hunt in the Stand-up. Let's cut thin. Struve can land his jab & straight right all night on Hunt's chin but I still think Stuve can't knock Hunt out. If Hunt gets inside at the right time it's nighty-night for the cool Dutchman. If Struve can gas Mark late in the 2nd--it's really his game especially if it hits the ground. Struve will hit something quick. Gosh, a triangle from a solid 7 footer..brutal! If Mark powers back to the feet, oh man it's gonna be fireworks! Can't wait for this one now!...

[BrutalKO]

...Now I'm getting this crazy hunch that It ends quickly by clean KO in the 1st rd. Keep thinking Struve brings the highest knees in MMA, clinching and landing bomb knees sending Mark on his way...it was just a passing thought...