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Georges St-Pierre (c) 81 76.42%
Nick Diaz 25 23.58%
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Old 03-12-2013, 02:06 AM   #141 (permalink)
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Diaz' cardio is such a myth. He was visibly tired while Condit looked completely fresh at the end of their fight. Diaz was also lumbering around in the 4th and 5th from karate style kicks. 5 rounds of GSP's low kicks would be a much different game. Diaz throws low power volume punches while avoiding any real footwork, it's the easiest style cardio wise ontop of that.


His endurance and cardio is not some absolute fact. GSP has never looked tired and has had a huge amount of 25 minute fights. After fighting gravity for 15 minutes we'll see a TIRED Diaz getting picked apart standing by a guy who actually knows how to use angles and get off the line while attacking.
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Old 03-12-2013, 02:14 AM   #142 (permalink)
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Diaz' cardio is such a myth. He was visibly tired while Condit looked completely fresh at the end of their fight. Diaz was also lumbering around in the 4th and 5th from karate style kicks. 5 rounds of GSP's low kicks would be a much different game. Diaz throws low power volume punches while avoiding any real footwork, it's the easiest style cardio wise ontop of that.


His endurance and cardio is not some absolute fact. GSP has never looked tired and has had a huge amount of 25 minute fights. After fighting gravity for 15 minutes we'll see a TIRED Diaz getting picked apart standing by a guy who actually knows how to use angles and get off the line while attacking.


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Was just thinking about this earlier. If you took away the time limit for this bout so that both fighters were forced to finish the fight, Nick Diaz would win every single time.

GSP may be able to "grind" out a decision victory over 25 minutes, but he will never be able to break Diaz's will and finish him, not in a million years.

I think this speaks volumes on who the better fighter is and who the better athlete or sportsman is. Nick Diaz defines the word fighter, whilst GSP defines the word athlete. To me, the essence of Martial Arts is about breaking your opponents will and looking to end them or finish the fight. Nick may or may not be able to get that finish inside of a 25 minute bout duration, but take away that time limit and he would be the one to find a way to finish the fight every single time.

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Diaz' cardio is such a myth. He was visibly tired while Condit looked completely fresh at the end of their fight. Diaz was also lumbering around in the 4th and 5th from karate style kicks. 5 rounds of GSP's low kicks would be a much different game. Diaz throws low power volume punches while avoiding any real footwork, it's the easiest style cardio wise ontop of that.


His endurance and cardio is not some absolute fact. GSP has never looked tired and has had a huge amount of 25 minute fights. After fighting gravity for 15 minutes we'll see a TIRED Diaz getting picked apart standing by a guy who actually knows how to use angles and get off the line while attacking.
I have to agree with this.

As others have posted, I think it's worth remembering that it's one thing to be able to run triathalons and fight at a measured pace; it's something altogether different to be forced to fight someone else's fight at their pace and where they want it to happen.

While I'm not convinced GSP will actually choose to hang around in top position this time, I am convinced that the chicken-arms and shoulders Diaz relies on for his vaunted boxing will be jacked, as he's forced to deal with GSP's TD's, grappling and top-control.

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I have to agree with this.

As others have posted, I think it's worth remembering that it's one thing to be able to run triathalons and fight at a measured pace; it's something altogether different to be forced to fight someone else's fight at their pace and where they want it to happen.

While I'm not convinced GSP will actually choose to hang around in top position this time, I am convinced that the chicken-arms and shoulders Diaz relies on for his vaunted boxing will be jacked, as he's forced to deal with GSP's TD's, grappling and top-control.

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uhhh no have you seen his fights with sanchez and sherk and riggs and his strikeforce fights he never runs out of gas ever, as for khovs example nick was mocking condit with those kicks it was very obvious.
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Fantastic retort, you raised some really fantastic points to counter my argument here. Great job, buster.

It's laughable that people are actually questioning Nicks cardio, when he's never shown any signs of real fatigue or exhaustion in any of his MMA fights thus far (just like GSP, another cardio machine).

Then again, Khoveraki was also the same guy who dismissed Cain Velasquez' cardio pre Junior rematch.
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:10 PM   #147 (permalink)
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It is funny when these goofs talk Diaz like they know him. I'm betting most of these guys have seen 2 fights of his fights...Penn and Condit....because he came back to the UFC.

GSP will probably take him down and control him. I am a Diaz fan and recognize this. Diaz fans aren't as delusional as people seem to think....it is called supporting fighters you like to watch fight. It is hard as hell to sub from your back in today's MMA. Even harder when you have a control freak like GSP on you who is slippery as hell. GSP will take DIaz down and it will be hard for Diaz to pull something off.

But questioning his cardio is foolish. He keeps the same pace the whole fight. He is never some explosive guy who uses power shots. He doesn't even train to be explosive.

Diaz will probably lose a decision. Then after GSP will say he was off this fight and will finish his next fight for his fans. Same old same old.
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It is funny when these goofs talk Diaz like they know him. I'm betting most of these guys have seen 2 fights of his fights...Penn and Condit....because he came back to the UFC.

GSP will probably take him down and control him. I am a Diaz fan and recognize this. Diaz fans aren't as delusional as people seem to think....it is called supporting fighters you like to watch fight. It is hard as hell to sub from your back in today's MMA. Even harder when you have a control freak like GSP on you who is slippery as hell. GSP will take DIaz down and it will be hard for Diaz to pull something off.

But questioning his cardio is foolish. He keeps the same pace the whole fight. He is never some explosive guy who uses power shots. He doesn't even train to be explosive.

Diaz will probably lose a decision. Then after GSP will say he was off this fight and will finish his next fight for his fans. Same old same old.
I just watched condit vs gsp, gsp isn't controlling hm no way no how he was swept by condit a few times and diaz is better on the ground by far
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I just watched condit vs gsp, gsp isn't controlling hm no way no how he was swept by condit a few times and diaz is better on the ground by far
I agree, that fight gave me some hope. Perhaps Condit's bottom game is just better than anyone GSP has ever fought before. Actually it is. Never seen someone do that good underneath him. I didn't want to give Condit too much credit tho and was thinking GSP was rusty.

I agree Diaz has much better BJJ than Condit.

GSP will probably use the Condit striking gameplan then mix in TDs. He will probably be too cautious to spend too much time in either place.

GSP better crush Diaz the way all these people on this forum talk. Anything less than a total beatdown isn't good enough the way people on here talk.
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He doesn't need to take him down.

Greg Jackson already exposed Nick once, if you don't engage him and keep moving you can out point him on the feet.


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