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Georges St-Pierre (c) 81 76.42%
Nick Diaz 25 23.58%
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Old 03-13-2013, 08:51 AM   #231 (permalink)
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That's because you guys probably think of boxing as overrated things like footwork and head movement and angles when really its just about how many times can you hit someone and wear them down fast and thats what nick's style is and this isn't boxing so the other variables I mentioned don't work that well for effective like nick's style.
Lol footwork, head movement and angles are overrated? Have you ever boxed a day in your life? Without all of that it isn't boxing, it's just someone punching. Nick is good at pushing the pace and overwhelming,but his defense is lacking big time and if he can't walk someone into a corner his striking fails. Why? Because he isn't a good boxer.
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Old 03-13-2013, 08:54 AM   #232 (permalink)
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So first you couldn't provide any evidence of elite strikers that Nick has beaten, and now you are trying to re-write the definition of good boxing?

You crack me up owns. I hope Nick wins on saturday, just for you
He will win and so will hendricks and thou shalt promote me to super admin in celebration, people think good boxing is just getting in and out in and in and out and some funky angles like edgar, but actually it's not that it's how much you can land and how often. Like GSP he is effective because he is always attacking with the jab however where he fails is that he doesn't have any other punches and the jab isn't as reoccuring in pace as nick's punches.

There's a reason why edgar and cruz can't finish fights sure they usually can't get hit with their in and outs but they will never finish and when they get a good opponent the technique fails badly like cruz vs faber and aldo vs edgar and maynard vs edgar or to a degree bendo vs edgar. That's all i'm saying there.
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There's a reason why edgar and cruz can't finish fights sure they usually can't get hit with their in and outs but they will never finish and when they get a good opponent the technique fails badly like cruz vs faber and aldo vs edgar and maynard vs edgar or to a degree bendo vs edgar. That's all i'm saying there.
GSP's opponents>>>>>>Nick's
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GSP's opponents>>>>>>Nick's
I didn't mention GSP there.... I said edgar and cruz....
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I didn't mention GSP there.... I said edgar and cruz....
So you weren't alluding to GSP's technique failing when he gets a good opponent in Nick similar to Frankie/Aldo? If not then Ill just say I misinterpreted and carry on.
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So you weren't alluding to GSP's technique failing when he gets a good opponent in Nick similar to Frankie/Aldo? If not then Ill just say I misinterpreted and carry on.
No I wasn't that's ok admittedly im very tired and im phrasing some of my meanings wrong. What I'm really saying is nick has a very good boxing style offensively because he drowns you with pace and always being on you and finishing you and he's not looking always for the one punch homerun like lots of mma fighters or the in and outs that never finish and when coming up against a good striker it fails if you don't have mayweather reflexes, even he is not in and out he is defensive and counters.
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No I wasn't that's ok admittedly im very tired and im phrasing some of my meanings wrong. What I'm really saying is nick has a very good boxing style offensively because he drowns you with pace and always being on you and finishing you and he's not looking always for the one punch homerun like lots of mma fighters or the in and outs that never finish and when coming up against a good striker it fails if you don't have mayweather reflexes, even he is not in and out he is defensive and counters.
I will agree that Nick has a very suffocating style and that can be a big problem. But I think Condit exposed Diaz in the striking department. I don't think Diaz is nearly as effective when fighting someone who utilizes good footwork and circles out consistently rather than letting Nick back them into the cage and getting trapped.
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I will agree that Nick has a very suffocating style and that can be a big problem. But I think Condit exposed Diaz in the striking department. I don't think Diaz is nearly as effective when fighting someone who utilizes good footwork and circles out consistently rather than letting Nick back them into the cage and getting trapped.
Well I know the problem right now about that case, if you remember the fight when they went to the corners his corner told him keep doing the same thing you are winning every round, so with that said he can never adjust at all if his corner says you are winning take it easy, if they said you are losing then I bet you he doesn't let condit leave or attempts TD's.
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Well I know the problem right now about that case, if you remember the fight when they went to the corners his corner told him keep doing the same thing you are winning every round, so with that said he can never adjust at all if his corner says you are winning take it easy, if they said you are losing then I bet you he doesn't let condit leave or attempts TD's.
You won't get an argument from me there. I hate when corners do that. Even if they think their fighter really is winning, it isn't good advice. In fact it isn't advice at all. Unless you are clearly dominating the fight, there is no reason to just tell your fighter they are winning the rounds.
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You won't get an argument from me there. I hate when corners do that. Even if they think their fighter really is winning, it isn't good advice. In fact it isn't advice at all. Unless you are clearly dominating the fight, there is no reason to just tell your fighter they are winning the rounds.
Yeah BJ Penn has pound for pound worst corner imo, nick I believe could have easily adjusted had they at least said final round this one is close you may need to finish don't leave in the judges hands but no they said 50-45 nick so he was doomed from the start the back control bit was nicks instinct to finish on his own not corners advice.
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