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***OFFICIAL*** Georges St-Pierre vs. Nick Diaz Thread

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#1 ·
Welterweight bout: 170 pounds
Five round fight for the UFC Welterweight Championship

 
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#116 ·
GSP has no shot in hell of finishing Nick.

Also say what you will. Nick goes off a lot. But the guy is always the first to recognize who has helped him and how he got here. He is loyal to all who have helped him and never takes the glory. He is probably a class act training partner as well.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/2/Dealt-Tough-Hands-50731



“Richard made me work harder than other trainers were working their fighters,” Nick said. “He pushed me and still pushes me. We work as a team really well. I was 16 years old when I started fighting. I was always looking for a good boxing trainer. I could only hope for someone like Richard. I doubt I would be where I am without Richard. I might have amounted to something but probably a lot different. When I fight, I use the path of least resistance and utilize the whole boxing aspect in a fight. That comes from Richard.”
 
#118 ·
As much as I like both fighters I dont think Diaz will come out with a " W "on this night. George is a very smart fighter and will beat the crap out of that front leg of Diaz and I think he will avoid taking him down. I think George will stay on him ( standing ) and not let him have any room to strike. He will dirty box him against the cage and keep him there. Watch for lots of elbows in the clinch from George and I wouldnt be surprised to see it stopped because of cuts.
Just a opinion!
 
#121 ·
I don't know. Diaz pushed forward non stop, and GSP isn't going to use the Condit game plane for this fight.

GSP will mix his strikes and takedowns for five rounds. I wouldn't be surprised to see GSP get slightly peppered by Diaz in the process. I think it will be a good fight. I don't expect it to be amazing by any means.

Condit / Hendricks should be fireworks.
 
#128 ·
Not the first time you've been wrong, and it definitely won't be the last. I would offer you a sig bet but you have that whole little problem you know... of not honoring your bets.

he is a cardio beast unstoppable gsp can never outdo him there thats fo sho
When has GSP ever had cardio issues? It's safe to say both guys can fight their asses off for 25 minutes. That advantage belongs to neither man come fight night.
 
#138 ·
Watched a recent Canadian interview with Rousey and of course she said that Diaz is going to win, and she talked shit about GSP, expecting GSP to just lay on Nick to try to win the fight. Said she lost respect for him when he went away from "Rush" since Matt Serra and for being a naysayer of Womens MMA. Just surprised since Ronda's whole game is about grappling would talk crap about someone grappling to win fights.

I honestly thinks she takes this too personal and likes to create beef on a 2nd party just to annoy someone. Just like how suddenly talking shit about Brian Caraway (and still does) just to get under Tate's skin and now that GSP is fighting Nick who is a good friend of Rousey, is suddenly taking constant jabs at him for no reason. Ive heard GSP, all he said that Women fighters do have good technique but he wouldnt watch them fight because of the way he was raised. Thats not bashing Women's MMA at all, he doesent mind it, but cant watch it. As guys, we are always taught that you cannot lay a finger on women and you have to protect them, thats why it does get difficult for guys watching girls getting their face pounded in. You cant just tell people to suddenly change their perceptions on and off like a switch. I dont mind gay marriage, doesent mean im against it if im not going around hooking 2 dudes up. Why cant she just say that she wants Nick to win just because they are good friends, instead of trying to find some superficial reason to discredit the other guy.

PS. She also said that if she was a TUF coach she would like to have the house mixed with guys and girls... lol yea we all know what you are thinking Ronda. :sarcastic12:

Really anticipating this fight, just not surprising to see Diaz fans around multiple forums planning their excuses already if Nick loses. It just makes me want to facepalm, just like some Sonnen fans that sincerely believe that all the crap that he says is actually true. If you want or believe Nick is going to win, fine, nothing against that. But its irritating hearing the "You cant fire me, I quit!" way of thinking again and again.
 
#139 ·
Just surprised since Ronda's whole game is about grappling would talk crap about someone grappling to win fights.
One is a Judo player who has ended everyone of her fights in the 1st round via armbar. The other is a wrestler who usually won't give up position and try many submission attempts, although spending more time in top position than maybe anyone in MMA history.

Little bit of a difference me thinks. Maybe be grapplers, but toally different gapplers. And different mentalities at the very least.

Really anticipating this fight, just not surprising to see Diaz fans around multiple forums planning their excuses already if Nick loses. It just makes me want to facepalm, just like some Sonnen fans that sincerely believe that all the crap that he says is actually true. If you want or believe Nick is going to win, fine, nothing against that. But its irritating hearing the "You cant fire me, I quit!" way of thinking again and again.
Which excuses were you referring too? Saying GSP will win via being on top for 5 rounds isn't an excuse, it is reality. You confuse excuse with not liking the style. Can you quote the excuses Diaz fans in forums are posting?

Thanks.
 
#140 ·
Was just thinking about this earlier. If you took away the time limit for this bout so that both fighters were forced to finish the fight, Nick Diaz would win every single time.

GSP may be able to "grind" out a decision victory over 25 minutes, but he will never be able to break Diaz's will and finish him, not in a million years.

I think this speaks volumes on who the better fighter is and who the better athlete or sportsman is. Nick Diaz defines the word fighter, whilst GSP defines the word athlete. To me, the essence of Martial Arts is about breaking your opponents will and looking to end them or finish the fight. Nick may or may not be able to get that finish inside of a 25 minute bout duration, but take away that time limit and he would be the one to find a way to finish the fight every single time.

WAR Diaz.
 
#141 ·
Diaz' cardio is such a myth. He was visibly tired while Condit looked completely fresh at the end of their fight. Diaz was also lumbering around in the 4th and 5th from karate style kicks. 5 rounds of GSP's low kicks would be a much different game. Diaz throws low power volume punches while avoiding any real footwork, it's the easiest style cardio wise ontop of that.


His endurance and cardio is not some absolute fact. GSP has never looked tired and has had a huge amount of 25 minute fights. After fighting gravity for 15 minutes we'll see a TIRED Diaz getting picked apart standing by a guy who actually knows how to use angles and get off the line while attacking.
 
#142 ·
Diaz' cardio is such a myth. He was visibly tired while Condit looked completely fresh at the end of their fight. Diaz was also lumbering around in the 4th and 5th from karate style kicks. 5 rounds of GSP's low kicks would be a much different game. Diaz throws low power volume punches while avoiding any real footwork, it's the easiest style cardio wise ontop of that.


His endurance and cardio is not some absolute fact. GSP has never looked tired and has had a huge amount of 25 minute fights. After fighting gravity for 15 minutes we'll see a TIRED Diaz getting picked apart standing by a guy who actually knows how to use angles and get off the line while attacking.


PS, "your boy" rocket fists got SMASHED:



 
#147 ·
It is funny when these goofs talk Diaz like they know him. I'm betting most of these guys have seen 2 fights of his fights...Penn and Condit....because he came back to the UFC.

GSP will probably take him down and control him. I am a Diaz fan and recognize this. Diaz fans aren't as delusional as people seem to think....it is called supporting fighters you like to watch fight. It is hard as hell to sub from your back in today's MMA. Even harder when you have a control freak like GSP on you who is slippery as hell. GSP will take DIaz down and it will be hard for Diaz to pull something off.

But questioning his cardio is foolish. He keeps the same pace the whole fight. He is never some explosive guy who uses power shots. He doesn't even train to be explosive.

Diaz will probably lose a decision. Then after GSP will say he was off this fight and will finish his next fight for his fans. Same old same old.
 
#148 ·
I just watched condit vs gsp, gsp isn't controlling hm no way no how he was swept by condit a few times and diaz is better on the ground by far
 
#179 ·
I give GSP a massive advantage in wrestling and a significant advantage in BJJ and striking. He is also way way stronger and more athletic and is better at implementing gameplans.

Diaz has better cardio and might get into GSP's... I'm not sure how he can parlay that into a victory.

This is clearly GSP's fight to lose.
 
#182 ·
significant advantage in BJJ
For someone who is supposedly a BB and so good at BJJ he doesn't like to go for many subs. He has spent perhaps more time on top than anyone in MMA history....yet he rarely goes for legit sub attempts. You would think a guy with that wrestling, strength, control....and I guess BJJ would be a little scarier on top. If Penn, Diaz, or Shields had that kind of wrestling and top control you would be seeing monsters . They would easily sub most anyone from top. I understand BJJ is more than subs.

But in terms of offensive BJJ? I don't even rank GSP. Couldn't finish an full armbar on Hardy. Doesn't even look for many subs even though he is usually on top of a tired out fighter for long periods.

the how come he won the match? it was basically a stand-up fight.
I forgot to add in "for 2 rounds". Shields is perhaps one of teh worst strikers in the UFC.

GSPs last 2 finishes are against 155ers. Penn just quit because he is a quitter. Serra sat there and GSP kneed him in the body until the ref said Serra can't do anything I am stopping it. Not even real stoppages.....vs. 155ers..
 
#197 ·
How is it an excuse?

People have said GSP will probably win from being on top. That he isn't a better striker or BJJ fighter....especially not significantly.

People like you keep crying "excuse" yet I haven't seen an excuse yet..

Humor me and quote the excuses you have seen. Don't be a liar and lets see you proof.
 
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