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Georges St-Pierre (c) 81 76.42%
Nick Diaz 25 23.58%
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post #51 of 580 (permalink) Old 03-05-2013, 12:56 PM
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You think GSP has the ability to get Nick in a choke? I haven't seen anything that would suggest that. Seems like too risky of a move for GSP. He refuses to take any risk and I don't see him trying any subs on Nick.
I think he does have the ability to get Nick in a choke, it just depends if GSP actually wants to go for it or not.
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Diaz won't quit, and GSP won't go for broke.

Prediction: GSP UD, and Diaz whining about no one wanting to actually fight him... as he retires... again.

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I think he does have the ability to get Nick in a choke, it just depends if GSP actually wants to go for it or not.
Who has he even came close to subbing other than Dan Hardy, since his UFC 79 sub win?
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Who has he even came close to subbing other than Dan Hardy, since his UFC 79 sub win?
Well he nearly put the fans to sleep on numerous occasions, does that count?
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Looking forward to this one. I really hope Diaz is able to make this into a good competitive fight but I have my doubts. I think the most logical outcome is a St Pierre 1 sided win by decision but I'm hoping for something else to come of this fight. I feel there is a good chance St Pierre will be too strong for Diaz and will be able to control Diaz on the ground even though Diaz is very skilled in BJJ. On the feet I expect St Pierre to do what he normally does and land a few flashy effective strikes a setting up his take downs while avoiding the majority of Diaz's strikes. But if Diaz is able to give GSP problems on the ground this fight could be very interesting. I would love to see it turn into a great MMA match up with lots of time spent both standing up and on the ground. I really hope Diaz can make a fight of it with GSP and avoid being controlled for the majority of the fight like most of GSP's opponents. But also it would be really cool to see GSP come out and pull off a dominating performances which ends with a spectacular finish. I've been saying for GSP's last couple fights that he is due for a performance like that but he has not produced it in those fights it would be something if he produces that great finish in this fight. GSP has all the tools to stop most of his opponents it just whether he'll take the risk and go for the kill. Overall I'm very stoaked for this fight and the rest of the card.
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I'm going to be really controversial and say that should this fight go the distance, Diaz may very well take it. You're all assuming that in a long distance fight, GSP will probably be controlling everything and making Diaz lie down most of the time... Diaz' tenacity, conditioning and skill set makes me question this.

On the feet Diaz will be marching forward throwing a high amount of strikes as usual. Either man can land a heavy counter, but Diaz is a much busier and more aggressive striker.

On the ground when GSP is on top, Nick will be constantly looking for submissions and a chance to sweep his way back up. IF GSP can consistently nullify these attempts, he will HAVE to do more offensively than he normally does or Diaz will make him look lazy, possible stand up depending on the ref.

If Diaz winds up on top, that's a situation we can't really visualize. We rarely see GSP in this position, Diaz does have a fantastic submission game, Nick will undoubtedly be scoring points from here at the very least.

Diaz outscoring GSP is very much a possibility to me.

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Who has he even came close to subbing other than Dan Hardy, since his UFC 79 sub win?
From a technical standpoint GSPs BJJ is very very good, especially if you seen him in a gym. Just like how I believe technically that Nick can knock out or submit GSP. Some guys just prefer to GnP a lot more, since its safer to rain down punches and still stay in a good position, then doing the chess match and possibly get submitted yourself or at least lose your advantageous position. Just saying, just because he doesent do it, doesent mean he cant do it. GSP is a smart fighter, he has got to this point by using his strengths and exploits the opponents weaknesses. He isint going to go away from that just to prove a point. But yea, Diaz is one guy that really pisses GSP off, maybe this time he does go for broke, who knows.
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Diaz 1st round guilotine
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So many asinine comments in one thread.

'GSP is scared.'

'GSP doesn't have the ability to submit fighters.'

'There is ZERO chance GSP finishes Diaz.'

I'm embarrassed to post here with idiotic comments like these. GSP isn't a scared fighter. There's no such thing. It takes fortitude to step inside a cage in front of millions and put your well being on the line. Scared men wouldn't be a part of this sport. GSP is a tactician who fights to preserve his health and longevity. That doesn't make him scared, and if you can't see the difference then there's really no point in conversing with you.

Moving on, of course GSP has the ability to submit someone like Diaz, or any fighter. To assume that he doesn't purely because it's been a while is just foolish. The question is not whether GSP has the ability to submit people, it's whether he'll take that risk. Again, one is completely different from the other. GSP took a lot more risks than he had to against Carlos, so the truth is that none of us knows what GSP will show up. He could come and play it safe. Or he could come to put on a show. OU would have us believe that GSP is a scared fighter who fights safe, and that Carlos Condit is a scared fighter who back-peddles the entire fight - and yet somehow these two managed to put on a FOTY nominee.

And finally, this whole 'zero chance' concept is bunk. Plenty has happened in MMA to validate the notion that anything can happen, and a dominant world champion leagues above his competition finishing an opponent is hardly a long shot. Yes, Diaz is tough to finish. And yes, this probably will be a 5 round UD. But you people really need to learn to leave the word 'impossible' at the door, because it has no place here.

I have no intention of returning to this thread until fight day or responding to any 'counterpoints'. I'm right. You're wrong. And I'd much rather enjoy what will likely be a great fight than have it ruined by keyboard warriors who fancy themselves big men over the internet. Instead of blaming GSP for being 'scared' and 'safe', try pointing a finger or two at the men whom have failed miserably to stop him.
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Condit vs GSP FOTY canidate? LOL I've seen 20 fights this year that were better then that trash. No one in there right mind would suggest that was a FOTY candidate when both fighters looked like rusty garbage.
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