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Well they don't produce normal levels of testosterone. For some weird reason this dreadful plaugue seems to strike people who have formerly been caught using or suspected of using steroids.

So either their former abusers or just too old to produce the testosterone naturally, which in my books should mean retirement - not TRT
I think it's good we have medicine that can extend these guys' careers.


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I think it's good we have medicine that can extend these guys' careers.
It's a good and bad thing, on one hand it lets them keep making money competing in a sport they love. But it also increases the potential for life-changing injury, whether it's damage in training, or head trauma from repeatedly being smacked in the face. There needs to be a point in an athletes career when he hangs up the gloves, and delaying that with medical treatments can be dangerous.

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It also extends their careers at the cost of some young, up and coming kid who can't get his spot in the UFC because the old timers won't leave. If your body can't deal with MMA any longer, you're not supposed to do it.




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people are surprised by this?????? I've seen bodybuilders with less muscle mass
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people are surprised by this?????? I've seen bodybuilders with less muscle mass
Don't think people are that surprised, but we are just discussing it seing as how it has been confirmed now




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Just before some (most) people get the wrong idea, the person who failed the drug test was Tiago Tavares.

I know people still believe it was Belfort and this "hidden" TRT use was the confirmation and come up with their own stories. Belfort used TRT and it was known and approved before the fight.

Regarding TRT use, imo its in such a grey area that it needs to be banned entirely. If you have low levels of testosterone when you are in your 30's its likely you destroyed your body with things like PEDs when you were younger. Just make TRT banned already. If you need TRT to power yourself up to fight, then maybe you shouldnt be fighting anymore.
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You are born. You train. You compete. At some point your body cant compete any more, for whatever reason. Time to stop.

In my puny mind... it really is that simple.
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people are surprised by this?????? I've seen bodybuilders with less muscle mass
Come on man that's bogus. I have a buddy thats 20 years old and has NEVER touched testosterone or any type of steroids that competes in AMATEUR body building and has more physique than vitor.





That's the thing, it's LEGAL. Who knows the real effects it has on the fighters? I mean in all honesty if you were in a fighters situation and they told you "Hey man you should go get tested and see if your testosterone levels are low because you could be able to use therapy treatment and it will help you train harder." First thing that's going to go through your head is "Well is it legal?" then you will think "Man this could help me win a fight which will increase my salary.. Which will let me retire earlier and support my family better. It will also give me a better sex life and make me feel younger again.." Why would you say "no" other than having too much pride to admit that you are getting older.

Taking a younger guys spot in the UFC? Please. Dana said that is like 500~ fighters on the roster.. If you are capable of putting on exciting fights at a professional level, you will eventually make it to the UFC and i highly doubt your going have to wait longer to get in because 2 or 3 vets in each division are taking TRT.


Like I said, if it's being abused, COMPLETELY against it and the fighter should be suspended/banned.

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It also extends their careers at the cost of some young, up and coming kid who can't get his spot in the UFC because the old timers won't leave. If your body can't deal with MMA any longer, you're not supposed to do it.
I don't quite agree, it hasn't stopped Weidman, Gus, Glover or Costa from getting in the top ten.


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**** Vitor.

"I think people get jealous when a guy at my age is destroying these people getting title shots," he said. " ... I think when you look good, the tendency of people to judge you and criticize you is bigger because it sells [newspapers]. See, we're talking about this, but I had a great performance, and we're spending more time talking about the controversy than my performance."

idiot. I haven't liked Vitor for sometime now



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