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Old 02-08-2013, 02:33 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Yeah the current system of "earning" title shots is a slap in the face to the real contenders. We see more and more speaking out. The current system is all about money and hype. The number of twitter followers you have is more important then the number of wins you have.
Totally agree, mind you if a ranking system was in place and strictly enforced would it neccessarily be effective within 12 months?
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:43 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Totally agree, mind you if a ranking system was in place and strictly enforced would it neccessarily be effective within 12 months?
I don't think you necessarily have to go off a ranking system and say #2 gets next shot. Because there is timing issues, injuries and a variety of factors that go into it. The problem is right now we are seeing fighters coming out of no where to jump guys that are obviously ahead of them in "line". For example right now you could give Bigfoot a title shot because of the current options available. He may not even be ranked in the top 5 but it would be understandable by most fans and fighters. But if they put Frank Mir back in there for a title shot then that would cause a bigger fuss. Most of it is common sense though. Just common sense that literally over a dozen fighters are more deserving of a LHW title shot then Chael Sonnen. IMO it's very easy to see who should be fighting for the title next.
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I don't think you necessarily have to go off a ranking system and say #2 gets next shot. Because there is timing issues, injuries and a variety of factors that go into it. The problem is right now we are seeing fighters coming out of no where to jump guys that are obviously ahead of them in "line". For example right now you could give Bigfoot a title shot because of the current options available. He may not even be ranked in the top 5 but it would be understandable by most fans and fighters. But if they put Frank Mir back in there for a title shot then that would cause a bigger fuss. Most of it is common sense though. Just common sense that literally over a dozen fighters are more deserving of a LHW title shot then Chael Sonnen. IMO it's very easy to see who should be fighting for the title next.
I don't see how Bigfoot is justifiable. And I realize more than just you are say it is.

Less than 1 year ago he was utterly creamed by the guy they would be putting him up against. Creamed. Bloody mess, had no shot, round 1.

Since then he KO'd a guy who blew his knee out, Browne was barely top 10 if he was top 10. He then faces OVereem, and he does KO him. But he was getting his ass handed to him the whole fight up until that exchange. Not only did he look goofy and slow standing. But he was slammed by Overeem. It would be sort of understandable if he went out there and beat up Overeem in dominating fashion. But he getting handled until cocky Reem gassed in the 3rd and finally got caught. As good/great to see as that Bigfoot KO was, that is the reality of it.

I don't see how that situation would be justifiable. Fighters have sat out longer to wait for an opponent.

All comes down to idiot Bones Jones though. If he just accepts the easy fight back when Sonnen did originally, he could have smashed him. Then Vitor never would have came into the picture, and we wouldn't have delusional Vitor still claiming to be a champion and the rightful #1 contender at 205. He could have realized he was a 185er and called out Anderson. To which we would have an Anderson defense scheduled. Hendo would be getting or had gotten his shot that he deserves. Winner of Gustaf/Mousasi could be for a title shot. And this goofy mess at LHW would have never happened.

Its Bones fault.
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As long as they keep giving shots to the loudest idiot, who is usually the most unqualified, then all of the champions will be champ for a very, very long time. Sonnen and Diaz have no chance in their upcoming fight. Sonnen will be finished within 3 rounds. GSP will make Diaz look like an amateur.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:38 PM   #25 (permalink)
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As long as they keep giving shots to the loudest idiot, who is usually the most unqualified, then all of the champions will be champ for a very, very long time. Sonnen and Diaz have no chance in their upcoming fight. Sonnen will be finished within 3 rounds. GSP will make Diaz look like an amateur.
How is Diaz, a former world champion, the 'least qualified'? How is Chael Sonnen, who has beaten several top ranked MWs and is the only man to take Anderson Silva into deep waters, the 'least qualified'? I can think of several other persons at WW and LHW less qualified to fight the champions.

GSP has made everyone he's fought look like an amateur. And Jon Jones destroyed both Shogun and Lyoto Machinda in less than three rounds. That doesn't mean that the men they're fighting are 'unqualified'. I could see an argument for undeserving, but unqualified is just a dumb thing to say. The UFC wouldn't have signed off on these fights if Diaz and Sonnen were cans.
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Whats Koscheck have to be upset about? He fought GSP twice.....and lost. Plus he is a tool. Hendricks I get but such is life.
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I don't see how Bigfoot is justifiable. And I realize more than just you are say it is.

Less than 1 year ago he was utterly creamed by the guy they would be putting him up against. Creamed. Bloody mess, had no shot, round 1.

Since then he KO'd a guy who blew his knee out, Browne was barely top 10 if he was top 10. He then faces OVereem, and he does KO him. But he was getting his ass handed to him the whole fight up until that exchange. Not only did he look goofy and slow standing. But he was slammed by Overeem. It would be sort of understandable if he went out there and beat up Overeem in dominating fashion. But he getting handled until cocky Reem gassed in the 3rd and finally got caught. As good/great to see as that Bigfoot KO was, that is the reality of it.

I don't see how that situation would be justifiable. Fighters have sat out longer to wait for an opponent.

All comes down to idiot Bones Jones though. If he just accepts the easy fight back when Sonnen did originally, he could have smashed him. Then Vitor never would have came into the picture, and we wouldn't have delusional Vitor still claiming to be a champion and the rightful #1 contender at 205. He could have realized he was a 185er and called out Anderson. To which we would have an Anderson defense scheduled. Hendo would be getting or had gotten his shot that he deserves. Winner of Gustaf/Mousasi could be for a title shot. And this goofy mess at LHW would have never happened.

Its Bones fault.
Bones didn't choose Chael, Dana did. That's why we're getting Jones/Sonnen instead of Jones/Hendo, Jones/Gus, or Jones/Glover. He's not the match maker, and he's not the one who decided to give Chael a title shot in April that Machida, Gus, Hendo and everyone else who turned him down on short notice would have likely accepted.
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It seems like Kos was describing Hendricks in his description of what kind of fighter it was going to take to beat GSP...Just saying...
nah, GSP has better MMA wrestling than Hendricks has.
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Let me play devil's advocate here. And let me preface it by saying I am no Diaz fan. But I think those people saying Diaz is unworthy of a title shot are taking it a bit too far. Now, you could argue that there is a more worthy contender (Hendricks), and I would buy into that. But if you recall, Diaz and GSP were slated to fight already and no one had a problem with it then. You could argue, even then, whether he was the worthiest contender. Sure, he did end up losing to Condit in a close one, who then lost to GSP, but many would argue that Diaz won that fight (I would not be one of them).

The fact is, Diaz-GSP is a legitimate grudge match. GSP wants to smash him. And he'll be the biggest heel in Montreal in UFC history. His only loss is a close- and some might say (again, not me)- controversial loss to Condit. Just because Condit lost to GSP, doesn't mean Diaz will. I personally think GSP will handle him with relative ease, but you can't use MMAmath there.

I'm not saying Diaz is more worthy of a shot than Hendricks, quite the opposite. And I'm certainly not saying Diaz has a better shot at beating GSP than Hendricks, again, quite the opposite. I'm just saying Diaz is a worthy contender, albeit not the worthiest, and the bottom line is that fight is going to sell a heck of a lot more. UFC is a business first. I for one have no problem with Diaz-GSP first. I want to see that fight. If Hendricks is as bad a man as most of us think he is, he'll take out the Juggernaut and get his shot next... unless of course GSP-Silva miraculously happens first.
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