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Old 02-09-2013, 11:46 AM   #11 (permalink)
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If only Cyborg could somehow lose muscle mass, she wouldn't need to cut the extra ten pounds...
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:07 PM   #12 (permalink)
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If only Cyborg could somehow lose muscle mass, she wouldn't need to cut the extra ten pounds...
Agree. I think Tito and Cyborg think we don't know the difference between losing some of that roided muscle mass and cutting weight. I'd like to meet the doctor who told Cyborg that she'll die if she loses some of that muscle mass by doing more cardio and a proper diet.

Tito is back to pissing off the UFC again. That guy has a real talent for this sort of stuff.
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i dont understand why people think it should be a 140 lb division. why wouldnt they be the same as the mens? you would assume they would use the same model such as 135 145 155 etc.

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i dont understand why people think it should be a 140 lb division. why wouldnt they be the same as the mens? you would assume they would use the same model such as 135 145 155 etc.

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Women's MMA doesn't have the same amount of talent as the men's divisions and if you combine 145 and 135, everyone can meet in the middle and then you wouldn't have this problem. Cyborg has said she can make 140, and that's the fight everyone wants to see, but they know she can't cut to 135 and they're losing out for the sake of catering to Ronda.
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I guess that makes sense. Wouldn't they just be catering to Cyborg then the same way people are accusing them catering to Ronda? I'm sure there some 130 lb women fighters out there who would complain that 140lb is too heavy for them. I dunno, seems silly to me. I find it very hard to believe Cyborg can't just work on cardio for a bit and lose 5 pounds of muscle. I know men and women are different but we also know she has been roiding for a quite a while to get that way.
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EliteXC creates a 140 lbs division for Gina to fight at:

They get criticized for catering to a star.

UFC doesn't create a 140 lbs division for Cyborg:

They get criticized for catering to a star.
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If I were a woman fighter and I heard Dana say "it's the Ronda Rousey show" then watched the Primetime, I would also want out. What's the point in fighting for an organisation that couldn't care less about you.
They could easily make a 140 division but no, Ronda is 135 so they'll keep it like that for her.


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The answer to this is fairly simple, go and beat up Rousey and make this your division. There is no question Cyborg can make the weight if she actually wanted, she's lean but she has so much muscle mass that if she lost some it wouldn't really make a difference. If anything, drop down and beat Rousey and then say you aren't fighting 135 anymore, that will leave the UFC in a real predicament.
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The answer to this is fairly simple, go and beat up Rousey and make this your division. There is no question Cyborg can make the weight if she actually wanted, she's lean but she has so much muscle mass that if she lost some it wouldn't really make a difference. If anything, drop down and beat Rousey and then say you aren't fighting 135 anymore, that will leave the UFC in a real predicament.
I actually thought of something like that which would be a big FU to the UFC.

I always thought 141 - 145 was the weight class they all fought at before at least when Gina was around. Like I said. If Cyborg or Gina were champ still rest assured the weight class would be there.

Tito has always gone against the grain, so the doctor's reasoning is all the leverage he needs. They also asked about a 140 catch weight which seems very reasonable. Health is certainly an important factor, but now cowering down is another.

Also it's a brilliant move because it's a negotiation tactic. Right about now he's fielding offers from other orgs. Tito/Cyborg isn't as dumb as you guys think. He understands management and the fight game very well. He doesn't need money with a networth of $15 million plus a gf/fiance/or wife who has probably doubled that. So his interests' are purely for the longetivity of Cyborg. Cyborg vs Ronda is the money maker each can command an audience, more so with Ronda. Cyborg will demolish the competition in other orgs collecting the same if not more from the UFC. You can build a whole event around Cyborg. Then the build up would be even greater with two years time which really isn't that long. Bottomline, sometimes big isn't necessarily the right move.

I can respect there decision.

EDIT: Strikeforce got it right and picked up where Affliction went wrong. They consolidated their heavy weight division, cross promoted which is unheard of in the UFC with the exception of Chuck fighting in Pride, and ramping up the woman's division all without putting their eggs into one basket (Fedor.) Why else do you think the UFC bought it out. Strikeforce was a threat. I hope Scott Coker and Frank made out like bandits cuz they knew what the end game was the moment they signed the dotted line. There can be only be one.
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Cyborg was actually signed? News to me.
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EDIT: Strikeforce got it right and picked up where Affliction went wrong. They consolidated their heavy weight division, cross promoted which is unheard of in the UFC with the exception of Chuck fighting in Pride, and ramping up the woman's division all without putting their eggs into one basket (Fedor.) Why else do you think the UFC bought it out. Strikeforce was a threat. I hope Scott Coker and Frank made out like bandits cuz they knew what the end game was the moment they signed the dotted line. There can be only be one.
They bought it out because Strikeforce put it up for sale. From what I read after the Fedor and Henderson deals and then after the big fight on CBS cost them the CBS deal. Investors were nervous and wanted out.
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