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post #21 of 60 (permalink) Old 02-09-2013, 01:12 PM
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Tito is really f*cking up Cyborgs career, UFC is the biggest platform she'd ever get to fight on, Rousey is the biggest WMMA star she could ever hope to face, and it's a fight the fans want to see the most, with the biggest payday.

Tito is doing what will make the most money for Tito.
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Tito is to Cyborg what M1 Global was to Fedor.
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post #23 of 60 (permalink) Old 02-09-2013, 01:29 PM
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Tito got Cyborg signed to the UFC...the next hurdle was only to make the weight, surely they would only sign the contract if they felt Cyborg can make it. Now all of a sudden the deal is no good?

I agree with you VolcomX311.

I always respected Tito to an extent, but is this some petty "I got one over Dana" crap?
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This is quite obviously a play to get more money.

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post #25 of 60 (permalink) Old 02-09-2013, 02:37 PM
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Hipster Tito makes a decision to remove Cyborg from the mainstream? Shocking.

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post #26 of 60 (permalink) Old 02-09-2013, 03:00 PM
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They bought it out because Strikeforce put it up for sale. From what I read after the Fedor and Henderson deals and then after the big fight on CBS cost them the CBS deal. Investors were nervous and wanted out.
That's actually an interesting tid bit. But the price had to be right still. Perhaps there's more behind the scenes, but I think the organization could have sustained itself. Point is there's a ripple effect from that.

I don't think Tito is to what Vadim was to Fedor at least not yet. They requested a catch weight fight and flatly got denied where as M1 were the ones who never compromised. They wanted to co-promote.

From the sounds of the interview though Tito mentioned numerous times he "asked" Cyborg and she said no to various stipulations. A manager advises, ultimately it's up to the fighter. Fedor is different. He allowed Vadim total autonomy.

Sometimes you get put in a spot and if it involves a caveat even with a substantial sum on the line, maybe it's not the right choice. Now this is where it can be similar to Fedor's situation where if Cyborg chooses another org and ends up losing. Then again Fedor never had to deal with weight cuts.

Here's my breakdown.

50% health issues
40% negotiation tactic
10% Tito is holding a grudge against Dana

Their fee is usually 10% on the high end unless of course you're Golden Glory.

Based on one of her fights.
$15K base salary + $15K win bonus + $5K championship bonus

Tito's commission - $3,500

For arguments sake lets triple it to $105,000 w/ a commission of $10,500.

It's chump change for Tito. Talent agents or managers for celebrities, super star athletes is where it's at. I can't see Tito doing this for himself. He's doing what "he feels" is the best with Cyborg ultimately hearing his input but making her own decisions.

EDIT: It sounds like I'm defending Tito, but I'm defending what YAHOO stands for.

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Well, that's her decision and it's cool with me. If she doesn't want to cut weight or doesn't think she can, then good for her for wanting to leave.

There are more female MMA established organizations for her to go fight at, with more competition and variety. The UFC female "division" will be gone within a year or two from lack of interest/draw and no fighters, so honestly it's not as if Ronda/Cyborg won't ever fight, they will meet in a different promotion down the line I'm sure.
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I saw this last night. The entire time I though, "Wow Tito is a moron."

The guy really just does not seem smart... at all.

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People are calling Cyborg to lose muscle mass in order to be able to make 135,
but if she does that she will lose one of her biggest assets in being much stronger than her opponents.
Maybe they think low of their chances in a talent vs talent match.

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An asset that she gained illegally.

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