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Old 02-09-2013, 05:42 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:10 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Ironic that the Dana wanted to stick her in Invicta considering that's one of the places she may end up. I understand that before she renegotiated her Strikeforce contract she was talking with One FC. Maybe she'll go there as well.
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Old 02-09-2013, 10:28 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Tito is really f*cking up Cyborgs career, UFC is the biggest platform she'd ever get to fight on, Rousey is the biggest WMMA star she could ever hope to face, and it's a fight the fans want to see the most, with the biggest payday.

Tito is doing what will make the most money for Tito.
What? Tito wanted Cyborg to fight Rousey at 135 it was Cyborg that said she coouldnt make the weight sorry but your wrong. Tito tried to convice cyborg she could make the weight.
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I personally think that its a good thing Rousey v Cyborg isn't happening right now. It'd be a great fight to watch, but itd be the end of WMMA at this point. Rousey is the face, personality, and fighting style that will push WUFC. If Cyborg comes in and smashes their prized pony, itll be the end of WMMA in the ufc IMO. People like seeing pretty girls armbar other girls. I dont think a lot of people would like to see another Cyborg v Carano fight. IMO, Cyborg v Carano put WMMA back 5 years. You have to have a superstar to get this thing off the ground and Rousey is already the chosen one. If they meet up say, a year and a half from now and people already know how good Rousey is, then it'd be great. If at that point Cyborg came in and smashed her (which I think would happen simply due to Cyborg's power) then Cyborg would be heralded as the next great thing.
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I think its great. Let the hype die. Infact I cant wait to read more about the Womens Division going down.....huh Double Meaning.
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I'm a fan of WMMA but I really wouldn't be sad if Liz knocked out Ronda or completely owned her and Dana closed it up, this division should have been Women's 140 from the very start, but he's so obsessed with Rousey and protecting her from Cyborg they're losing out on the biggest fight they could do for WMMA.
WHy should Dana change the weight of a division? I thought you said how awesome WMMA was and how worthy it was? Yet you want him to change the division so we can see the only fight that we care about? If it was so awesome this wouldn't be a big deal. You make little sense when it comes to this issue.

WHy should Dana change the weight of a division? Ronda won the 135lb title in SF. Why should the division change its weight limit? Ronda and Cyborg are obviously not even in the same weight class. Why should Ronda have to move weight? Yet you are so against guys moving up or down or doing catchweights? She is the 135lb champ for focks sake. If they changed it to 140 she wouldn't even be allowed to be called the champion right now.

SO you are basically saying they should have made it 140 so they can do this 1 single fight? Shows was crappy the WMMA is. Ronda shouldn't have to go anywhere. She is the 135lb champ. They should change the WW division. Make it 178 so that pansy GSP and Anderson can meet for a title.

Cyborg holds the cards here. No she won't have the potential income and fame the UFC may bring her. But other organizations would pay her ok because she is a name. If Cyborg refuses to go down to 135, Dana misses out on the only worthy women's fight right now. Basically destroying WMMA in the UFC. Cyborg holds the right cards.

If she can't make 135 she shouldn't be in the UFC until the UFC adds more than 1 focking women's weight class.

How would men react if the UFC had 1 focking men's division?? Would they all be expected to make that weight?

WMMA is just a joke right now. And it is proving that it isn't ready for this sort of leap. The only fight the general public even cares about his Cyborg/RR. And they aren't even in the same focking weight class. Hell the UFC doesn't even have Cyborg's class. Yet they have her under contract????

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WHy should Dana change the weight of a division? I thought you said how awesome WMMA was and how worthy it was? Yet you want him to change the division so we can see the only fight that we care about? If it was so awesome this wouldn't be a big deal. You make little sense when it comes to this issue.

WHy should Dana change the weight of a division? Ronda won the 135lb title in SF. Why should the division change its weight limit? Ronda and Cyborg are obviously not even in the same weight class. Why should Ronda have to move weight? Yet you are so against guys moving up or down or doing catchweights? She is the 135lb champ for focks sake. If they changed it to 140 she wouldn't even be allowed to be called the champion right now.

SO you are basically saying they should have made it 140 so they can do this 1 single fight? Shows was crappy the WMMA is. Ronda shouldn't have to go anywhere. She is the 135lb champ. They should change the WW division. Make it 178 so that pansy GSP and Anderson can meet for a title.

Cyborg holds the cards here. No she won't have the potential income and fame the UFC may bring her. But other organizations would pay her ok because she is a name. If Cyborg refuses to go down to 135, Dana misses out on the only worthy women's fight right now. Basically destroying WMMA in the UFC. Cyborg holds the right cards.

If she can't make 135 she shouldn't be in the UFC until the UFC adds more than 1 focking women's weight class.

How would men react if the UFC had 1 focking men's division?? Would they all be expected to make that weight?

WMMA is just a joke right now. And it is proving that it isn't ready for this sort of leap. The only fight the general public even cares about his Cyborg/RR. And they aren't even in the same focking weight class. Hell the UFC doesn't even have Cyborg's class. Yet they have her under contract????

Joke.
I enjoy watching WMMA, but admittely it's not as deep as the men's divisions such as 170 or 185, this is the most talent it's ever had and it will continue to grow but if you combine 145 and 135, everyone can meet in the middle, you can get Cyborg and maybe you even lure Gina back into one more fight in the UFC not to mention they add more depth, something the men's weight classes don't have an issue with.

And like you said, everyone misses out on the one Women's fight everyone wants to see, Cyborg isn't going down to 135, Ronda isn't going back to 145, where she originally fought so it looks like they'll just have to stay with 135. You've said a thousand times in talking about GSP/Diaz and Jones/Sonnen, it's about which fight makes the most money, it's a business, well guess what? Rousey/Cyborg makes the most money when it comes to Women's MMA, but the only way you're going to get is at 140 lbs.

So really 140 lbs makes all the sense in the world if you really think about it, more depth which people complain about, the big money fight which a lot of people have said they wanna see, even people who aren't big on WMMA, everything adds up assuming Cyborg really can't cut that weight and isn't lying or holding out to get more money the only negative to a 140 lb class is that it means Ronda would have to get in there with Cyborg and risk getting her face messed up and I don't think Dana wants that.
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Old 02-10-2013, 11:20 AM   #40 (permalink)
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I'm agreeing with you. It would be nice to see Cyborg/RR because it is the only WMMA fight I care about. That is also why I said Cyborg holds the cards....Dana is running it like a business. He wants that fight. He also wants Rousey to be a star because she is easily the most popular women's fighter.

But bottom line is Rousey is the 135 champ. It is foolish to say Dana is protecting her....because he is allowing her to fight in a division she was champion of. That is a little out there.

Sad when your 2 biggest WMMA stars are a girl with like 6 fights who is a dominant champ already. And a woman who has been on roids for years. If a dude was on roids and got an immediate title shot people here go crazy and say how the UFC is losing credibility. But when it comes to Cyborg it is somehow all fine. Yea the UFC surely wants a roided out woman as their sole women's champ...

I'm not entirely against WMMA as a whole. But WMMMA is not ready for this leap....not even remotely close. Rousey jumps right into main eventing a PPV vs. a unworthy challenger. Yet men at 135 and 145 struggled to get main event statuses. With 100x the skill. And a much deep division with real talent.

Rousey can make 135 and has won her belt there. There is no reason to change the weight class she is champion of, just to suit a cheater. How is that fair? We always talk about fair and title shots. How is changing the whole weight class for a cheating roider....fair?

It is all hypocritical. Because WMMA supporters are scrambling hoping the UFC finds away to make this all interesting. When there are 2 fighters in all of WMMA right now who anyone cares about. 1 is the 135lb champ. The other is a roided out 145 fighter.
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