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Does that mean they can still use TRT?

Why not ban it altogether?
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Mir didn't cheat then and justifiably used the treatment even though he probably used steroids a while back and thats why his levels were so low.
To be fair, Mir had a lifethreatening motorcycle accident with serious injuries. That can mess up with your testosterone levels. So I'd give him the benefit of doubt. The other guys mentioned not so much though.
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I love this.

Do you think Hendo/Vitor/Rampage/Chael etc have low testosterone by medical standards? **** NO is the correct answer.

The more eyes on this TRT shite the better, eventually it will deter or better still restrict doctors from prescribing it unless the individual actually has low testosterone.

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I love this.

Do you think Hendo/Vitor/Rampage/Chael etc have low testosterone by medical standards? **** NO is the correct answer.

The more eyes on this TRT shite the better, eventually it will deter or better still restrict doctors from prescribing it unless the individual actually has low testosterone.
Hendo might he's pretty old.


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I would buy into that, but he has been on it for along time. And i don't find it just a coincidence that both Dan and Chael are both on TRT after training with old man Randy. To this day I know Randy was a juicer you can just tell by his physique, it got better with age..WTF. It's called the Chael Sonnen eye Test.

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I would buy into that, but he has been on it for along time. And i don't find it just a coincidence that both Dan and Chael are both on TRT after training with old man Randy. To this day I know Randy was a juicer you can just tell by his physique, it got better with age..WTF. It's called the Chael Sonnen eye Test.
TRT is interesting I'm curious to see how many ex Pride guys end up on it.


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Is there anybody who's a certified/pseudo physician. I don't want to look up TRT on Wiki. Seriously what's the difference between actually injecting juice vs TRT. It does seem like a loop hole. Best analogy would be obtaining a medical weed card cuz you're dealing with lung cancer.

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Is there anybody who's a certified/pseudo physician. I don't want to look up TRT on Wiki. Seriously what's the difference between actually injecting juice vs TRT. It does seem like a loop hole. Best analogy would be obtaining a medical weed card cuz you're dealing with lung cancer.
Only difference is the levels. TRT should, and I say should mind you be alot lower than people using steroids for like say bodybuilding or whatever the reason. TRT is testosteron, same as any blackmarket injectable, but administered in lower doses. If fighters use their TRT within the doses that a normal patient would is hard to know.

I work in a pharmacy, we have Testosteron undecanoate or Nebido-R as our particular brand is called.

The only difference between the undecanoate ester & say a very popular ester within black market steroids called
testosterone enanthate is that the undecanoate ester is alot slower acting so if you inject 200mg it will stay in you system for alot longer than enanthate wich roughly stays for a week. Making your levels lower since the 200mg are spread over such a long time. Other than that the testosterone used for TRT-treatment is exactly the same as black market testo.
A normal does of Nebido-R would be about 1000mg every 10 - 14 weeks for someone with hypogonadism.
while a normal "roiding" dose might be 200-400mg per week for a fighter ( I don't know this I just took an example as many black market testo-brands come in 200mg vials) & not to mention bodybuilders often times will take 2000mg a week mixed with maybe 5 - 10 other hormones at crazy high amounts, atleast at the higher levels.

On the black market there are ofcourse tons of different hormones other than testosteron, but testo is still one of the most popular ones for abuse as well.

Seems like alot off fighters chose other substances for their "roiding" than testo tho wich makes sence because there are lots of PEDS that are more designed for that type of physical work. But never underestimate the power of testosteron for anything. It will give you more endurance, motivation, agression, pure drive, OFC strength & recovery as well.
Properly administered TRT should only put you on normal levels, but since it's obvious that not that many fighters have hypogonadism, I guess it's fair to assume that it's used in higher doses perscribed by corrupt/payed off doctors. I seriously doubt all the fighters getting TRT actually have hypogonadism.

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Only difference is the levels. TRT should, and I say should mind you be alot lower than people using steroids for like say bodybuilding or whatever the reason. TRT is testosteron, same as any blackmarket injectable, but administered in lower doses. If fighters use their TRT within the doses that a normal patient would is hard to know.

I work in a pharmacy, we have Testosteron undecanoate or Nebido-R as our particular brand is called.

The only difference between the undecanoate ester & say a very popular ester within black market steroids called
testosterone enanthate is that the undecanoate ester is alot slower acting so if you inject 200mg it will stay in you system for alot longer than enanthate wich roughly stays for a week. Making your levels lower since the 200mg are spread over such a long time. Other than that the testosterone used for TRT-treatment is exactly the same as black market testo.
A normal does of Nebido-R would be about 1000mg every 10 - 14 weeks for someone with hypogonadism.
while a normal "roiding" dose might be 200-400mg per week for a fighter ( I don't know this I just took an example as many black market testo-brands come in 200mg vials) & not to mention bodybuilders often times will take 2000mg a week mixed with maybe 5 - 10 other hormones at crazy high amounts, atleast at the higher levels.

On the black market there are ofcourse tons of different hormones other than testosteron, but testo is still one of the most popular ones for abuse as well.

Seems like alot off fighters chose other substances for their "roiding" than testo tho wich makes sence because there are lots of PEDS that are more designed for that type of physical work. But never underestimate the power of testosteron for anything. It will give you more endurance, motivation, agression, pure drive, OFC strength & recovery as well.
Properly administered TRT should only put you on normal levels, but since it's obvious that not that many fighters have hypogonadism, I guess it's fair to assume that it's used in higher doses perscribed by corrupt/payed off doctors. I seriously doubt all the fighters getting TRT actually have hypogonadism.
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