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post #101 of 207 (permalink) Old 02-20-2013, 05:34 PM
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Fitch released? Wtf?

I won't lie, i'm a little less of a UFC fan now.
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post #102 of 207 (permalink) Old 02-20-2013, 05:41 PM
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Regarding Fitch, this is both disappointing and confusing. Fitch has won 14 fights in the UFC with his only losses being to St. Pierre, Hendricks, and Maia. He has never lost back to back fights, and has compiled eight and five fight win streaks. Not to mention for a very long time, Fitch was thought to be the best welterweight in the world not named Georges St. Pierre. He showed in his fight with Erick Silva that he can stll compete with the best in the UFC. Unless there was a contractual issue or something, I see no logic behind cutting Jon Fitch. I'll be waiting for a statemnt from White or Joe Silva to follow.

Regarding the other fighters released, I wish that Hieron and Santiago would have een given another chance. Hieron was competitive with Ellenberger and got rushed by Woodley. Santiago had a relatively competitive fight with one of the best prospects in the entire organization.
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post #103 of 207 (permalink) Old 02-20-2013, 05:50 PM
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Looks like broke Fitch is going to be even....broker, HIIIYOOOOOOOOO

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post #104 of 207 (permalink) Old 02-20-2013, 05:51 PM
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I dunno, it makes a lot of sense to me. I think everyone is aware that Fitch has been the #2 fighter at 170 for the past 6 years or so. Everyone is also aware that he will NEVER beat Georges St. Pierre in his lifetime, so this makes him the clog in the world's biggest logjam in MMA. He has steadly been beating prospect fighters and knocking off contenders for years in a way that is frankly uninteresting and isn't the fight that fans are looking for.

In times like these I have to remind myself that this is entertainment AND sport. The UFC does not have logical rankings because dollar values mean more than the significance of earning a rank.

Volkmann is another guy I don't mind seeing go along with Russo. They're the same breed of fighter that Fitch is but they're just not nearly as good in their respective divisions.

Valddy will probably hang the gloves up, it's sad but it's right thing at this point. The Janitor has had a good career.

Che Mills I think could have gotten another chance along with Sass. I think we'll see them back in the UFC in a year or so. Etim I'm not so sure of. He was posterized by Edson Barbosa with one of the most brutal knockouts imaginable. He'll be spending a long time trying to shake that memory from the fan's minds.

Jorge Santiago and Jay Hieron are journeymen who were brought in for one reason, to lose to guys the UFC were trying to promote. They're both knockouts waiting to happen. They'll probably get another shot down the line but again only to lose to UFC prospects.

The rest of the guys I don't know about or am uninterested in. I'm just looking at it objectively. It's all about the money and these guys probably don't bring enough in to warrant keeping around. Business is business.
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Pros react to the cuts

http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/2/20...hite-joe-silva

Derek Brunson is a ******* idiot.
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post #106 of 207 (permalink) Old 02-20-2013, 06:03 PM
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Santiago has a bad record in the UFC, but he has faced some pretty tough competition when in the octagon.
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post #107 of 207 (permalink) Old 02-20-2013, 06:15 PM
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Hard to argue with most of these.

Jon Fitch
1-2-1 in last four UFC fights.

Wagner Prado
0-2 in last two UFC fights.

Mike Russow
0-2 in last two UFC fights.

Jacob Volkmann
1-2 in last three UFC fights.

Vladimir Matyushenko
0-2 in last two UFC fights.

Che Mills
1-2 in last three UFC fights.

Jay Hieron
0-2 in last two UFC fights.

Terry Etim
1-3 in last four UFC fights.

Paul Sass
0-2 in last two UFC fights.

Jorge Santiago
0-3 in his last three UFC fights.

Mike Stumpf
0-2 in his last two UFC fights.

Simeon Thoresen
0-2 in his last two UFC fights.

C.J. Keith
0-2 in his last two UFC fights.

Motonobu Tezuka
0-2 in his last two UFC fights.

Josh Grispi
0-4 in his last four UFC fights.

Ulysses Gomez
0-2 in his last two UFC fights.
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I dunno, it makes a lot of sense to me. I think everyone is aware that Fitch has been the #2 fighter at 170 for the past 6 years or so. Everyone is also aware that he will NEVER beat Georges St. Pierre in his lifetime, so this makes him the clog in the world's biggest logjam in MMA. He has steadly been beating prospect fighters and knocking off contenders for years in a way that is frankly uninteresting and isn't the fight that fans are looking for.

In times like these I have to remind myself that this is entertainment AND sport. The UFC does not have logical rankings because dollar values mean more than the significance of earning a rank.

Volkmann is another guy I don't mind seeing go along with Russo. They're the same breed of fighter that Fitch is but they're just not nearly as good in their respective divisions.

Valddy will probably hang the gloves up, it's sad but it's right thing at this point. The Janitor has had a good career.

Che Mills I think could have gotten another chance along with Sass. I think we'll see them back in the UFC in a year or so. Etim I'm not so sure of. He was posterized by Edson Barbosa with one of the most brutal knockouts imaginable. He'll be spending a long time trying to shake that memory from the fan's minds.

Jorge Santiago and Jay Hieron are journeymen who were brought in for one reason, to lose to guys the UFC were trying to promote. They're both knockouts waiting to happen. They'll probably get another shot down the line but again only to lose to UFC prospects.

The rest of the guys I don't know about or am uninterested in. I'm just looking at it objectively. It's all about the money and these guys probably don't bring enough in to warrant keeping around. Business is business.
I get that but should they also release Koscheck? You can't cut everyone who isn't gonna be a champ, Fitch is still one of the premier welterweights in the world and has just turned a corner in his career openly saying he was going to take more risks.

Maybe I'm just a butthurt Fitch fan but this cut is so ludicrous to me.


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Just when I started enjoying his fights.
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Hated Fitch for years, but his performance against Silva turned me into a big fan. Really fought his heart out in that fight with everything on the line as he was broke at the time. Was in awe of his submission defence. Im sure thats gotta be the same for plenty of fans.
I felt the exact same way. Use to hate Fitch and he won me over after the Silva fight. UFC lost a ton of my respect with this cut, and if more cuts like these take place, they might eventually lose me as a fan. I'm not down with this at all.


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