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post #121 of 207 (permalink) Old 02-20-2013, 08:14 PM
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Honestly Askren would probably tool Fitch.

Fitch has no chance of outwrestling him and Askren's nearing Fitch's level on submission grappling.

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Fitch is the only fighter on the list that I am surprised was cut. And even then, I am not incredulous about his cut either. It's not hard to imagine that Fitch just didn't 'play ball' when Silva/Zuffa requested him to. His recent 1-2-1 record and history of boring fights before that, didn't help either. There are many variables that might have led to him being cut.

I find it funny that people think the UFC is in financial trouble. If this was the case, which it isn't, cutting mostly lower payed fighters wouldn't even begin to help them out. With the Fox deal, more events than ever, & new markets opened up, the UFC is as strong financially as ever.

This isn't the old UFC where fighters can rest on past accomplishments or mediocre records. Which is a good thing for the future of MMA.
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I'm not normally one for conspiracy theories, but could this have been a calculated move by Dana? Fitch despit being a top WW, is not a big draw, so from a business standpoint he isn't really that big of an asset to the UFC. If he signs with another organization, he still won't be a big draw, but he might be some of their up and comers and prevent them from becoming a draw.

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I'm not normally one for conspiracy theories, but could this have been a calculated move by Dana? Fitch despit being a top WW, is not a big draw, so from a business standpoint he isn't really that big of an asset to the UFC. If he signs with another organization, he still won't be a big draw, but he might be some of their up and comers and prevent them from becoming a draw.
Maybe its even more clever than that...Maybe Dana knows that Bellator wouild be interested in him and he also knows that Fitch will beat anyone in Bellator with the possible exception of Askren (who is equally unintertaining) and he is trying to harpoon them with a boring fighter...Tinfoil hat is going on...
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Honestly Askren would probably tool Fitch.

Fitch has no chance of outwrestling him and Askren's nearing Fitch's level on submission grappling.
What do you base that off of? Askren's wins over a bunch of cans? Wait until he fights someone who is ranked in the top 50.

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This just goes to show that no matter how well you do your job, you will be replaced if your boss doesn't like you.

I'm more upset that Etim was cut than Fitch tbh. Plus the UFC is probably just bolstering Belators' roster a touch and plan on buying them in a couple years anyway.
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Honestly Askren would probably tool Fitch.

Fitch has no chance of outwrestling him and Askren's nearing Fitch's level on submission grappling.
Hieron put Askren on his back. Fitch would win the fight. His submission grappling is on another level

Don't get me wrong I like both guys. But Fitch is much more well rounded



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What do you base that off of? Askren's wins over a bunch of cans? Wait until he fights someone who is ranked in the top 50.
This post is hilarious because it implies that Askren's Bellator comp is any worse than the Chris Wilson's, and the Luigi Fiorvanti's that Fitch made his name off of.

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Hieron put Askren on his back. Fitch would win the fight. His submission grappling is on another level

Don't get me wrong I like both guys. But Fitch is much more well rounded
Uh no.

Askren fell down in a scramble and momentarily lost position. He then scrambled up 15 seconds later while deep on a single.


Ben Askren has never been taken down in an MMA fight.


Fitch couldn't even get a second of offense in against Demian Maia...who has no wrestling background.

Not to say Fitch is a bad wrestler but he's basically Ben Askren without the talent.

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