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Old 02-20-2013, 09:10 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Why is it whenever someone gets cut early by the @UFC, everyone gives me shit? I would have cut me way before @JonFitchdotnet too!

just now on his twitter
By just now do you mean like hours ago?
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:13 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Not long time ago I was having this conversation with Ari about UFC being political or not and I said politics is all around us. Regarding Fitch release, it smells politics all over as well. It doesn't matter he won't be champ. He is a solid gatekeeper and although I hate his style, I have to agree he is powerful in his game and I am sad to see he is leaving.
You know that fella in your company you know is a plain incompetent but got a management position ahead of you? Well, that works both ways. If we all agree that technically, Fitch should not be cut, most probably outstanding reasons(political, finnancial) got him cut. I vote in an old( or recent, who knows) disagreement with the big boss and I agree with LyotoLegion here - inspite being Brazilian, I can't understand Tibau is waving goodby to Fitch if politcs wouldn't be envolved somehow.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:17 PM   #133 (permalink)
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ROFL I stand corrected. Hieron never got a takedown. My bad.

But Hieron stuffed a lot of Askrens takedowns, and I think that Fitch would outwork him off of the cage, and gain top control.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:17 PM   #134 (permalink)
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If there were ever a time for a new org to pop up and be competitive now is it. Bellator has the wrong idea - basically copying the UFC.

I'd scoop up UFC castaways and wait for Bellator to fold. If a org tried to become the anti-UFC they may have limited success. Go after only 155 lb+ fighters, go anti kid/family/feminist friendly and promote it as such. Don't hide swear words, middle fingers, and post-fight brawls, but encourage them. This is cagefighting FFS.

Put it on HBO or something. With proper promotion and financial backing it might work. I'd watch it.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:18 PM   #135 (permalink)
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Terry Etim, Lightweight, UFC Record 6-5, 1 FOTN, 3 SOTN. On a 2 loss streak.
Jon Fitch, Welterweight, UFC Record 14-3-1, 2 FOTN. On a 1 loss streak. 2 fights removed from winning a FOTN bonus. Had 8-win and 5-win streaks in the UFC. Once fought for the WW title. Has been in the main event for 2 cards.
Ulysses Gomez, Flyweight, UFC Record 0-2. Winless in the UFC.
Josh Grispi, Featherweight, UFC Record 0-4. Winless in the UFC.
Jay Hieron, Welterweight, UFC Record 0-2 (0-4 including his previous stints). Winless in the UFC.
C.J. Keith, Lightweight, UFC Record 0-2. Winless in the UFC.
Vladimir Matyushenko, Light Heavyweight ,UFC Record 4-3 (7-5 including his previous stint in the UFC). On a 2 loss streak. Has been in the main event for 1 card.
Che Mills, Welterweight, UFC Record 2-2, 1 KOTN. On a 1 loss streak.
Wagner Prado, Light Heavyweight, UFC Record 0-2-1. Winless in the UFC.
Mike Russow, Heavyweight, UFC Record 4-2, 1 KOTN. On a 2 loss streak. Won 4 straight before that.
Jorge Santiago, Welterweight, UFC Record 0-1 (1-5 including his previous stints). On a 1 loss streak. Took his last fight on about three weeks' notice.
Paul Sass, Lightweight, UFC Record 3-2, 2 SOTN. On a 2 loss streak. 3 fights removed from winning a SOTN bonus
Mike Stumpf, Welterweight, UFC Record 0-2. Winless in the UFC.
Motonobu Tezuka, Bantamweight, UFC Record 0-2. Winless in the UFC.
Simeon Thoresen, Welterweight, UFC Record 1-3. On a 2 loss streak.
Jacob Volkmann, Lightweight, UFC Record 6-4. On a 1 loss streak. At one point had a 5-win streak.
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In total, 16 fighters cut.
Of the 16, 8 were from the WW and LW divisions.
8 fighters did not have a single win during their run in the UFC (this does not include previous stints).
4 fighters (Fitch, Mills, Santiago, and Volkmann) were cut after 1 loss. Of these 4 fighters, 3 lost in decisions.
Probably the most important fact: every single fighter here fought and lost on a 2013 card. This is happening while many Strikeforce fighters are being signed and moved into the UFC.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:19 PM   #136 (permalink)
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This post is hilarious because it implies that Askren's Bellator comp is any worse than the Chris Wilson's, and the Luigi Fiorvanti's that Fitch made his name off of.


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Not to say Fitch is a bad wrestler but he's basically Ben Askren without the talent.
Hmmmm the fail is strong in this one.
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I imagine they wanted Fitch to take a pay cut as he is no longer close to being a concensus #2. He likely declined it and they released him allowing him to seek other offers. I think he will likely end up back in the UFC in time though unless Bellator really wants him as a marquee fighter.

I will cry if Bellator picks him up though cause I can't imagine how bad tournament Fitch would be when he needs to conserve his body.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:28 PM   #138 (permalink)
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I imagine they wanted Fitch to take a pay cut as he is no longer close to being a concensus #2. He likely declined it and they released him allowing him to seek other offers. I think he will likely end up back in the UFC in time though unless Bellator really wants him as a marquee fighter.

I will cry if Bellator picks him up though cause I can't imagine how bad tournament Fitch would be when he needs to conserve his body.
He wasn't really making that much though. 66k is good money for a guy like Fitch.


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He wasn't really making that much though. 66k is good money for a guy like Fitch.


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Who knows what kind of bonus money he was making though, very likely he is getting a PPV cut.
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