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Another BS cut by Zuffa, Diego Nunes

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#1 ·
I can't beleive they cut Nunes. Insane. That dude has been fighting nothing but top level guys and hasn't lost back to back fights at any point in his career. Just got done beating Palaszewski and has wins over Manny and MTB. Just insane.
 
#18 ·
To be fair, he looked terrible against Lentz. He wasn't beaten to a pulp or anything but it looked like he gave up midway through the fight. Whoever decided to cut him probably noticed that as well. Sure he's never lost 2 in a row and is 3-3 with the company, but his lack of heart probably pissed off Dana a bit.
 
#16 ·
I think it's insane that Nunes lost to a guy that is now a title contender just after beating a guy that was a title contender and he gets cut. Never lost back to back fights, always fought top level competition. Held his own and doesn't make much $ so that can't be a factor. Seriously makes me sick when I look at people still on roster and I look at cuts like these. Then fans just make it worse by just accepting it as OK when it's really not. My fandom is hurting today. For Zuffa and for this board. My MMA fandom is at an all time high after last night's Bellator tough. You guys can't take that joy from me.
 
#17 ·
Yes, there are more inferior fighters on the roster, but we also know that UFC plans to cut 100 people by the end of 2013. You have no idea who's going to be kept around and who isn't. You'd be wiser to argue that UFC should begin by cutting its weakest fighters, but even that is debatable. Do you cut a lower ranked fighter making 6000 dollars per fight? Or do you cut a higher ranked fighter making 30,000 per fight but who has lately been under performing?

What some of you fail to realize is that the likes of Fitch and Nunes will probably be back with the company by 2014, but under new and cheaper contracts. It's dirty, but it's also business.

And did you honestly just challenge me to list 15 UFC featherweights better than Bart Palaszewski?

1) Jose Aldo
2) Frankie Edgar
3) Anthony Pettis
4) Antonio Carvalho
5) Ricardo Lamas
6) Hacran Dias
7) Hatsu Hioki
8) Darren Elkins
9) Chad Mendes
10) Korean Zombie
11) Nik Lentz
12) Dustin Poirier
13) Cub Swanson
14) Dennis Siver
15) Rony Jason

This isn't even counting fighters like Bermudez, Brandao, Garza, Guida, and Koch, all of whom would likely beat Bart. Heck, I'd even put my money on guys like Andy Ogle and Max Holloway.
 
#19 ·
OU,

Did u see the media scrum with Dana from yesterday? If you didnt you should check it out as well as everyone else, was insightful into the Fitch cut.. Points can be argued either way for guys like Fitch, Nunes, or anyone for that matter..

Bottom line is 100 more fighters will likely be cut in the coming months, many off a single loss...

Dana made it pretty clear and always does with his dont leave it to judges speech... Go out there impress us, don't stall, lay around.. Always fight like its your last fight...

Nunes just lost to Lentz (not like losing to a Florian or Aldo) you are winning and losing but falling down the rankings at the same time... One step forward, two back
 
#22 ·
On Topic, I dunno what happened to the other thread, but they also said that Urijah Faber is next to be cut if he loses on Saturday. Shocking.
I remember him saying that but I'm calling BS. Dana was in the heat of the moment and spewing out garbage for most of that rant. Faber is the only big name in that dead division. Not only that, but he's a pretty good fighter too. BW can't afford to lose Faber.
 
#27 ·
If you aren't on the roster you don't get your medical paid for while training (injuries, premiums, etc.) This is just the UFC micro managing, I am sure a lot of the top guys will be back.

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#31 ·
It's corporate downsizing without the benefits. The infrastructure is now becoming bloated so it's beginning to contract especially after the SF buy out. I sincerely hope the UFC has not peaked cuz they're one of the companies that are on an upsurge during the recession.

Look at Best Buy, Blockbusters video, Circuit City, JC Pennys, Sears, etc. They're all closing shops entirely cutting out thousands of jobs.

This is the first time we're seeing it on this scale and unfortunately any minute reason gives them a cause. If you miss a deadline you're reprimanded, but if you miss work and underperform then it's cause for dismissal. In the UFC it boils down to the W's and L's that's it.

It's a three tiered plan.

1.) Make the company roster leaner. Sports teams do this all the time. They've reached a tipping point.

2.) Use Fitch as a martyr to show that anybody is capable of being cut if you under perform even for one fight.

3.) Don't bite the hand that feeds you. (refer to #3. Randy is on this list as well after the fact.)
- not wanting to fight Kos
- video game disagreement
- with the exception of the E. Silva fight, fighting in a non-fan friendly manner

If you really think about it, it's not just them. When Chuck, Tito, BJ started losing what did Dana say. Granted they got more opportunities to fight, but the results were the same, but worded differently. The business can NOT run without drawing seats. If you're losing and you're not drawing then how can they justify paying out said purse fees. It's a losing venture.

*Note* UFC 151 played a catalyst. Any other org would have shut doors after that fiasco.
 
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#33 ·
It's corporate downsizing without the benefits. The infrastructure is now becoming bloated so it's beginning to contract especially after the SF buy out. I sincerely hope the UFC has not peaked cuz they're one of the companies that are on an upsurge during the recession.

Look at Best Buy, Blockbusters video, Circuit City, JC Pennys, Sears, etc. They're all closing shops entirely cutting out thousands of jobs.

This is the first time we're seeing it on this scale and unfortunately any minute reason gives them a cause. If you miss a deadline you're reprimanded, but if you miss work and underperform then it's cause for dismissal. In the UFC it boils down to the W's and L's that's it.

It's a three tiered plan.

1.) Make the company roster leaner. Sports teams do this all the time. They've reached a tipping point.

2.) Use Fitch as a martyr to show that anybody is capable of being cut if you under perform even for one fight.

3.) Don't bite the hand that feeds you. (refer to #3. Randy is on this list as well after the fact.)
- not wanting to fight Kos
- video game disagreement
- with the exception of the E. Silva fight, fighting in a non-fan friendly manner

If you really think about it, it's not just them. When Chuck, Tito, BJ started losing what did Dana say. Granted they got more opportunities to fight, but the results were the same, but worded differently. The business can NOT run without drawing seats. If you're losing and you're not drawing then how can they justify paying out said purse fees. It's a losing venture.

*Note* UFC 151 played a catalyst. Any other org would have shut doors after that fiasco.
So what you're saying is that this is all Jon Jones' fault :wink03:
 
#32 ·
Dana might be testing the waters, he should realize that MMA are not necessarily UFC fans, they are fans of fighters, not the organization that puts them on. If fighters that have lots of fans leave the UFC the fans could go away also. Don't really matter if you lost your last fight or not if you have fans and people are willing to pay to see you fight its good business to keep you. The opposite is also true and I think thats what happened to fitch, he was a top talent but Im sure Dana felt that what they were paying him compared to what people will pay to see him fight was upside down.. Its a profit/loss thing..
I dont agree with the fitch move but a previous poster has already covered it, Dana wants fitch in the UFC but for CHEAP MONEY ONLY.
 
#41 ·
Dana White said:
You better fight your ******* ass off, make it good and win. That's the only way people want to see you. People want to see you when you're exciting, you know? Unfortunate, sucks, it would be nice if you could just go lay on a guy for three rounds and people would love it and want to buy all your pay-per-views (PPV). Welcome to the ******* real world guys, that's not how it works.
well, "lay and pray" can only happen if the opposing fighter is less skilled. Thus, if anyone should be cut, is the fighter with the lack of grappling skills, not the fighter that can implement his game plan.
From another (non-MMA-related) forum - and I agree fully.

Man, I already miss having some real competition for the UFC & I'm just tired of this crap. F*@% this $#!< .
 
#42 ·
From another (non-MMA-related) forum - and I agree fully.

Man, I already miss having some real competition for the UFC & I'm just tired of this crap. F*@% this $#!< .
People generally are cut for losing so that person and you are actually not making any kind of point. The point DW is making isn't that grapplers need to stand and strike it is that they become less expendable when they lose and will make more money when they win if they actually try to hurt and finish their opponent. It isn't about strikers versus grapplers it is about this being the fight business and thus you need to actually fight or no one is going to pay to see you.
 
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