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Old 04-10-2007, 01:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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There's no such thing as luck in MMA

Im posting this in response to a lot of people saying Serra got lucky. THERE IS NO LUCK... NO SUCH THING AS LUCK, it's called skill and mistakes. Serra didn't get lucky he TKO'ed GSP, he had stand up skill and GSP made a mistake by ducking. In MMA there is no luck. I can go on forever why there isn't.

This is more pointing towards a guy named emperor who can't get over the fact that GSP lost.


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Old 04-10-2007, 01:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Could Serra not be considered lucky that GSP made a mistake?

Luck is a vague word, dude. Don't take it so literally.
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Old 04-10-2007, 01:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well Serra had the skill to improve his standup and stand with GSP and outstrike him, so its skill and a mistake by gsp.
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Yes, but one person's luck is often another's misfortune.

I'm not saying I don't agree with you. I'm just saying "luck" is a loose term.
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Old 04-10-2007, 02:00 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah, really. This thread is just arguing semantics.

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Yep you could basically argue that there is no such thing as luck, not just in MMA but anywhere

God's will, fate, destiny

Personally, I think luck is a varying factor in all sports. Sometimes very minor, sometimes major
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Yep you could basically argue that there is no such thing as luck, not just in MMA but anywhere

God's will, fate, destiny

Personally, I think luck is a varying factor in all sports. Sometimes very minor, sometimes major
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Old 04-10-2007, 02:13 AM   #8 (permalink)
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IDL - alright, say that you drive to work everyday and do the same route in your vehicle every day, every day its the same, but one day you spill coffee or something on your pants, so you change your pants, making you 30 seconds off schedule, on your same route to work some guy evading the police crashes into a car and all passengers die, that should be your position if it werent for you spillinng your coffee, what would you call it? would you call it fate/godswill/destiny that the other people were meant to die and not you or would you call it lucky that you spilled your coffee on ya

totally off topic, doesnt relate to luck in ufc, although you are right, there is no luck in the ufc
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I immedietly thought of Couture and Liddell 3 when Randy slipped off his jab then got KO'd, was Liddell lucky Randy happen to slip and he caught him with a punch that wouldn't have been as effective without the slip, or was it Randy's mistake that he slipped himself

There is luck, just not in this case, Serra meant to take him out with a punch and thats what happened.
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IDL - alright, say that you drive to work everyday and do the same route in your vehicle every day, every day its the same, but one day you spill coffee or something on your pants, so you change your pants, making you 30 seconds off schedule, on your same route to work some guy evading the police crashes into a car and all passengers die, that should be your position if it werent for you spillinng your coffee, what would you call it? would you call it fate/godswill/destiny that the other people were meant to die and not you or would you call it lucky that you spilled your coffee on ya

totally off topic, doesnt relate to luck in ufc, although you are right, there is no luck in the ufc
I'm not sure what I'd think if that happened. For sure I would feel lucky. Can't say if I would go so far as to say it was fate or not.
Really, all those things mean the same thing.

If there was some blood on the mat and someone slipped on it, sending him off balance thus giving his opponent the opportunity to land a knock out punch, same question.

If someone walked up to a fighter out of the blue saying he had some info on what strategy his opponent would be fighting, same question.

During a fight and your opponent is bobbing and weaving and you can't track the movement, then you throw a haymaker and hope to connect. It connects and you get the KO! Same question

X infinite scenarios

proof that this is an open ended question and it depends on your definition of luck
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