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Johny Hendricks 18 31.58%
Carlos Condit 38 66.67%
Draw 1 1.75%
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post #211 of 220 (permalink) Old 03-19-2013, 12:51 AM
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The second round was a very difficult one to judge but I think they probably got the decision right. It was an entertaining fight and hopefully Hendricks gets his title shot now instead of GSP hand picking another guy he knows he can dominate.
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I know this is not how scoring works, but like to do it this way..

1st - 10-7 Hendricks
2nd - 10-9 Hendricks
3rd - 10-6 Condit

Thus a Draw..

This constant trend of scoring 10-9 rounds only really works in boxing because there are so many rounds therefore each round is weighted less. In MMA with 3 or 5 rounds, Dominating a single round should count for more than just one point..

Head-butting fists and KOing the air is not effective striking.
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I know this is not how scoring works, but like to do it this way..

1st - 10-7 Hendricks
2nd - 10-9 Hendricks
3rd - 10-6 Condit

Thus a Draw..

This constant trend of scoring 10-9 rounds only really works in boxing because there are so many rounds therefore each round is weighted less. In MMA with 3 or 5 rounds, Dominating a single round should count for more than just one point..
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I do like the idea of the point system being revamped a little to more than just 10-9, you won the round type of scoring we have now since the fights are a lot less rounds than boxing. Often rounds are one-sided but it's pretty rare to see it look that way on score-cards.
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I don't see the point of changing the point system when the judges can't even give the round to the right person half the time.
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I know this is not how scoring works, but like to do it this way..

1st - 10-7 Hendricks
2nd - 10-9 Hendricks
3rd - 10-6 Condit

Thus a Draw..

This constant trend of scoring 10-9 rounds only really works in boxing because there are so many rounds therefore each round is weighted less. In MMA with 3 or 5 rounds, Dominating a single round should count for more than just one point..
I agree with your point, but you confuse me with your example of scoring. You're saying a take down is worth an obscene amount of points even if the guy gets right back up. Because there is absolutely no question that Carlos was winning, not dominating, but definitely winning the stand up exchanges. Then he gets taken down, gets up in 15 seconds and continues to win the stand up... and somehow he's losing 7-10 rounds?
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im pretty sure he lost the first round standup exchanges, he got cracked with a few hard lefts and was constantly backing up

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I like the half point scoring system but judges would probably muck it up too much. That's probably why it isn't used.

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what is this half point scoring system? i just don't like how a fighter can edge out 2 rounds by barely nothing and then get tossed around and brutalized in the third but still win a fight when they obviously lost... i feel like be absolutely dominant in a round should be worth more than one point...

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Didn't some state do a test of the half point system where the judges would unofficially score the fights with it and it changed basically nothing.
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I agree with your point, but you confuse me with your example of scoring. You're saying a take down is worth an obscene amount of points even if the guy gets right back up. Because there is absolutely no question that Carlos was winning, not dominating, but definitely winning the stand up exchanges. Then he gets taken down, gets up in 15 seconds and continues to win the stand up... and somehow he's losing 7-10 rounds?
Because its not boxing. Landing a takedown, even if its not followed up with anything is still a takedown. We can't just score a round on who is winning the stand up. Plus it's not like Hendricks scored the one takedown, he took condit down 12 times. Condit needs to work on his takedown defence. I know it sucks it works like that but wrestling is a skillset, a takedown is a skillset, so to dismiss it in a Mma fight you may aswell dismiss landing a punch, kicks, or even a submission.

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