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Old 03-01-2013, 04:36 PM   #91 (permalink)
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to the guys saying they could take professional male fighters a 125 135 or 145.. that is stupid, even if you are 205+ these fighters are fast accurate and explosive and on the ground would out scramble you in a half a second to gain dominant position and submit you..

for a woman fighter though, they lack speed and power.. if you are even somewhat athletic you can generate more speed and power than they ever could even cybrg(albeit for a limited amount of time)

when you watch these girls train with much larger men, these guys are going about 20%.. even on the Ultimate Fighter, these amateurs are just grappling for fun and hoping to cop a feel, they might be going 30%..

the guys here saying they would lose to rhonda are either small guys, or guys who have never been in a fight.. she simply has no stopping power, even in a full arm bar i doubt she could break my arm and i could probably pull it together and slam the shit out of her until she let go or was unconscious.

my running back jab has more power than her best haymaker..
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I'm pretty sure I could take Kid Yamamoto.
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That's because it was a woman applying the arm bar. Had it been a man, Tate would be an amputee.
Yeah, sure, but irrelevant to the point, since I was bringing up her her pain tolerance. She could have fallen from her skates, it doesn't matter.
By the way, Miesha took to tap longer than Chael took in all occasions he was submitted combined.
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Yeah, sure, but irrelevant to the point, since I was bringing up her her pain tolerance. She could have fallen from her skates, it doesn't matter.
By the way, Miesha took to tap longer than Chael took in all occasions he was submitted combined.
I know you're making a point, but taking long to tap doesn't make you tough. IMO it makes you pretty stupid.

You tap to save yourself from being physically broken or harmed once you realize you're not getting out, and blackness or brokeness is imminent. Competition or not. I don't understand the "I'll never tap" people. Never have, never will.
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It has nothing to do with pain tolerances, that's pretty equal on average and is highly psychological... it has to do with the physical ability to take damage and the ability to deliver damage, not to mention having much larger stores of adrenaline..
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I know you're making a point, but taking long to tap doesn't make you tough. IMO it makes you pretty stupid.

You tap to save yourself from being physically broken or harmed once you realize you're not getting out, and blackness or brokeness is imminent. Competition or not. I don't understand the "I'll never tap" people. Never have, never will.
Yes, you stand correct, but maybe that proves stupid people are tougher, then.

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It has nothing to do with pain tolerances, that's pretty equal on average and is highly psychological... it has to do with the physical ability to take damage and the ability to deliver damage, not to mention having much larger stores of adrenaline..
I agree with you too, but I will add that pain will have different limits on different people. Yes, psychological factors do apply and also physiological as well, as you mentioned - adrenaline levels. This will vary from people to people and in one person as well, depending on the kind of pain experienced. Example: I have no problem scrubbing my busted bloody open knuckles to clean all the oil, grease and dirt after fixing my old V8, what makes my wife leave the area imediately almost fainting, but in the other hand (thanks this is an anonymous forum and you're all discrete friends ) I fecking hate needles to the point I feel the pain even before the damn thing enters my arm, what sucks, cause my job requires me to take blood samples regularly.
I never said girls support more pain than man, 'cause this theory was busted already, but studies suggest the tolerance is indeed average equal, as you said.
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5'10" 175 here. Pretty much the average sized guy. I train a little BJJ every now and then and wrestling is also my game. So yeah.. Considering the ground is where I want to be, an Olympic level judoka with Cesar Gracie BJJ really is a bad match up for me. I don't care though, I don't train professionally. Honestly, none of us would agree to fight any professional fighter without a certain amount of training. Jon Jones trained for what, 6 months before he got into the UFC? I could be wrong, but I'm sure there are other examples. I bet if Jon Jones entered without that 6 months of training, he'd get destroyed. Sure, he has his college wrestling and athleticism, but that won't get you far without actual MMA training.

So yeah, none of us would be able to fight Ronda anyway, but if we were to fight any professional fighter, we'd have at least 6 months to a year of actual MMA training by then. I'm sure plenty of people here have somewhat of a base, whether it be kick boxing or wrestling or whatever. Everyone improves at a different pace when training in MMA if they actually show true dedication. I'm not saying any of us could beat a UFC level fighter within 6 months to a year of training, but we'd obviously have a better shot than if we just ran in there and called someone out. The point I guess I'm making is, it's not fair to ask a guy who doesn't train at that level if they could beat someone who trains for a living. If someone said to me, "Hey Nick, you want to fight an entry level UFC fighter?" I'd be like, sure, as long as I get paid and I have plenty of time to train with a solid camp. I'd still lose, but that's more fair than me just leaving my usual 40 hour a week job to just step in the octagon against a guy with so much more experience and training than me.

If you're saying just drop what you're doing and go fight Ronda Rousey or a professional fighter at the gym, then yeah, you'd get destroyed rather easily. Although that's not exactly fair. I'm guessing most of us aren't training at a professional level at this point in time and never have while these people have been training for years and are still currently training full time.
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I'm pretty sure I could take Kid Yamamoto.
Probably not but I wouldn't doubt you against a guy like Jason Reinhardt.


Someone who...clearly can't fight despite being a professional who's paid to do it.


I mean...it's a fight, realistically anything can happen.


Benji Radach was actually a half decent fighter and he got his head knocked off by a guy off the streets....stretched.
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Yeah, sometimes the "signed then cut" prelim guys like Reinhardt get too much credit for being a professional. Like, just because they have been signed by the UFC at one point, it makes them on a completely different level than anyone else.

Honestly, looking at some of the TUF guys who couldn't make it in the UFC. How long do you think it would take to get to their level if you wanted to train full time and had the resources to do so? Everyone improves differently and I don't mean to belittle how hard it is to make it in MMA, I realize it takes true dedication, but you see some guys fight and wonder how they made it as a professional. I'm not going to accept that they could just walk through anyone just because of their title. Actual fighting and MMA are quite different. This is me talking about your typical guy that gets signed by the UFC and gets released shortly after because of going 0-2 against low level competition.
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