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Old 03-07-2013, 01:29 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I don't care about any of that.

Everybody talks up Manhoef and his power, then go ahead and enlighten me, who all has he beat in MMA?


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The problem with that is his horrific ground game gets him put on his back and finished often in MMA. But when fighters don't go that route, the story changes. There is no questioning his power, just look at the fights he did get the KO and see how hard that man hits. All you have to do is watch his fights and you can see the power. I remember posting a few gifs of Melvin knocking people out on here, it's usually brutal shit. His dream fight is Wanderlei Silva and I have brought that up many times as one of the fights on my dream card. Dude's power really can't be questioned. Just watch him.
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The fact that Hunt was KOed by Melvin and submitted by McCorkle doesn't change the fact that he's just defeated Rothwell, Kongo, and Struve in succession. That's an impressive feat for any heavyweight. JDS went on a similar tear and people were calling for a title shot. You can't deny Hunt his due on the basis of the past. Chael Sonnen has a less than stellar MMA past, and yet he managed to string enough wins together to get two middleweight title shots, coming within inches of defeating Anderson Silva.

Mediocre past. Stellar present. Unpredictable future. If anything, it just shows that a man can better his craft if he decides to actually take it seriously.
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He has the right opponent.

People are just uneducated about Weidman.

Besides shouldn't people be lining up left right and center to see the 'GOAT' work his magic? Because when he gets put down on July 6th he'll never fight again.


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There's a difference between MMA fans on a message board choosing a stylistic opponent for Silva and the common UFC fan having absolutely no clue who Weidman is. If this card is weak, Silva's a draw but he should be bigger because of how amazing he is, but he usually gets good supporting fights.
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The fact that Hunt was KOed by Melvin and submitted by McCorkle doesn't change the fact that he's just defeated Rothwell, Kongo, and Struve in succession. That's an impressive feat for any heavyweight. JDS went on a similar tear and people were calling for a title shot. You can't deny Hunt his due on the basis of the past. Chael Sonnen has a less than stellar MMA past, and yet he managed to string enough wins together to get two middleweight title shots, coming within inches of defeating Anderson Silva.

Mediocre past. Stellar present. Unpredictable future. If anything, it just shows that a man can better his craft if he decides to actually take it seriously.
Exactly. Can anyone name a HW in the UFC that has a longer winning streak right now in the UFC(UFC fights only)? I think Hunt right now might have more UFC wins in a row at HW then anyone else right now. I'm talking about current, active winning streaks in the UFC HW division.
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I thought you guys were discussing Manhoef's KO power? If so, I don't see what being a terrible MMA fighter has to do with being able to KO anyone on the planet if they are dumb enough to let you.

I've always liked the technical execution of his striking. His body mechanics are a thing of beauty to see. How he loads up his kicks like a spring and brings so much torque behind them when he releases. How his opponents' body parts bounce back by the sheer impulse when he hits them. Also his fast striking level changes are a thing not often seen with all those pure head hunter strikers in MMA.
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I wish JDS would stop ducking Mark Hunt. He's had 2 chances and ran away each time with his tail tucked between his legs.
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So Hunt said he didn't want the fight
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Don't ever remember bringing up Junior's KO power.

Manhoef couldn't Mousasi, Lawler or Tim Kennedy yet he managed to knock out the oh so great barely above .500 Mark Hunt who was also finished by Sean McCorkle. Why don't you rattle me off some of Manhoef's MMA wins Mr. Know It All.


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You laugh at how Hunt was KO'd by Melvin, so I'm telling you that Melvin has some of the most insane KO power in the entire damn sport and that getting flash KO'd by him in a matter of seconds is really nothing to be ashamed of and nothing to make a mockery of (like you continuously do with your WWE fan logic).

Hunt got flash KO'd by one of the most powerful and brutal strikers in the entire sport, So what? GSP got KO'd by a pillow fisted Matt Serra, do you laugh at that, too? Cain got flash KO'd by Junior Dos Santos, we all saw how the rematch turned out and we all saw how you were completely convinced that Cain stood zero chance in the rematch and that Junior was just going to easily KO him again?

Are you getting it yet? Early Flash KO's don't really tell us jack shit about the fight, this is MMA, the best of them get caught at times. Melvin flash KO'ing Hunt early on doesn't really tell us any thing (just like Junior KO'ing Cain so early on didn't really tell us any thing) other than that Melvin hits like a Heavyweight and if you let him hit you on the button, you're going to get knocked out. An early flash KO isn't really an accurate representation of each fighters skills, it hardly tells us any thing so stop using it as some silly diss on Hunts chin and capabilities as a fighter.
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You laugh at how Hunt was KO'd by Melvin, so I'm telling you that Melvin has some of the most insane KO power in the entire damn sport and that getting flash KO'd by him in a matter of seconds is really nothing to be ashamed of and nothing to make a mockery of (like you continuously do with your WWE fan logic).

Hunt got flash KO'd by one of the most powerful and brutal strikers in the entire sport, So what? GSP got KO'd by a pillow fisted Matt Serra, do you laugh at that, too? Cain got flash KO'd by Junior Dos Santos, we all saw how the rematch turned out and we all saw how you were completely convinced that Cain stood zero chance in the rematch and that Junior was just going to easily KO him again?

Are you getting it yet? Early Flash KO's don't really tell us jack shit about the fight, this is MMA, the best of them get caught at times. Melvin flash KO'ing Hunt early on doesn't really tell us any thing (just like Junior KO'ing Cain so early on didn't really tell us any thing) other than that Melvin hits like a Heavyweight and if you let him hit you on the button, you're going to get knocked out. An early flash KO isn't really an accurate representation of each fighters skills, it hardly tells us any thing so stop using it as some silly diss on Hunts chin and capabilities as a fighter.
I haven't watched WWE in like eight years so I don't really know why you keep calling me a WWE fan, I used to watch Barney and the Power Rangers when I was younger too am I fan of them as we'll or are you just a butthurt preachy fan whose sad the 'glory days' of MMA are gone where the fighters 'fought their hearts out like warriors'.

You also still have yet to provide me with some of Manhoef's wins, so I'm just going to assume he's a can crusher, which would probably explain by he beat Hunt.


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I haven't watched WWE in like eight years so I don't really know why you keep calling me a WWE fan, I used to watch Barney and the Power Rangers when I was younger too am I fan of them as we'll or are you just a butthurt preachy fan whose sad the 'glory days' of MMA are gone where the fighters 'fought their hearts out like warriors'.

You also still have yet to provide me with some of Manhoef's wins, so I'm just going to assume he's a can crusher, which would probably explain by he beat Hunt.


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What's Manhoefs wins got to do with any thing? Who the fck has Matt Serra beat? Hey buddy, instead of checking on wikipedia for "wins and losses" and the rest of your statistics, how about you go and watch some actual fight videos and real footage to get a good grasp of why fighters like Mark Hunt are respected tremendously, and why guys like Melvin are recognised as elite level strikers with brutal KO power. Instead of fact checking, go and watch some damn fights and educate yourself.

Who has Manhouef beaten.....Who the fck has JDS beaten? Other than a flash KO over Cain and Frank Mir, who the fck has JDS beaten? Mark Hunt has convincingly beaten a prime Wanderlei Silva and a prime Mirko Crocop, back when they were both KILLERS in an era you wouldn't know shit about, so how about you shove that down your pipe and smoke it.

Instead of looking through wikipedia pages, go and watch some hours of footage and get a god damn grasp of this sport and what it's all about.

This would be a good bloody start for you:

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