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This is why it should have stayed hendriks vs ellenberger for the #1 contender. Now if condit wins on saturday and rory beats maia, who will fight gsp next?
Probably a guy like Ellenberger.

Diaz can fight Saff and unify the belts.
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Rory got taken down by Mike Pyle...pretty sure Maia can get him down.

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Rory got taken down by Mike Pyle...pretty sure Maia can get him down.
That was pre-weight lifting Rory. Doesn't count.

I don't feel like going back and watching the fight, but did Penn not manage a takedown on Rory?

I'm sure Maia can land a takedown. But we're talking about the fate of a nation here. I have to cling to something.
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Rory got taken down by Mike Pyle...pretty sure Maia can get him down.
That's a joke right? Mike Pyle is a much better wrestler then Maia will ever be.
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This is why it should have stayed hendriks vs ellenberger for the #1 contender. Now if condit wins on saturday and rory beats maia, who will fight gsp next?
Even if that situation occurs you still have several guys that could move up a fight a number one contenders fight.

Tarec Saffadiene - 4 fight win streak
Matt Brown - 4 fight win streak
John Hathaway - 3 fight win streak
Mike Pierce - 3 fight win streak
Mike Pyle - 3 fight win streak
Jason High - 7 fight win streak

You also have Kim, Ellenberger and Woodley who are likely close to fight for a title. The WW division isn't lacking for depth
Also I wouldn't count out a GSP/Condit II
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Probably a guy like Ellenberger.

St. Pierre can fight Saff and unify the belts.
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So you are saying GSP can fight Ellenberger and Saff at the same time?

You didn't fix that very well.
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No, we don't know these things. He couldn't take Silva down and crumbled mentally. He couldn't take Munoz down and resorted to sloppy striking. He couldn't take Weidman down, and ditto. Maia has looked like a beast at WW, but let's be honest... he's had the size advantage in every fight. I'm not going to dismiss his wins because they've been very impressive, and I'm a Maia fan. But he'd better be expecting to come in and face a MW in Rory because that's what he'll get. And if Maia struggled with the strength of Munoz, then Ares is going to have his way with that ass.
That was at the time when Maia thought he were a kickboxing genius and abandoned all of his offensive grappling. Hell, in the Weidman fight he even used his Jits to STAND UP again, after they both found themselves on the ground.

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Still, it's a very 'dumb' great fight. If Rory wins, he most likely doesn't face GSP and Maia gets set back.
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Rory annoys me, because if you have no intention of fighting the champ then why stay at the weight? He is a huge WW that will probably end up at 185 anyway as he gets bigger. Not sure what the UFC is trying to do by having him beat top guys and possible title contenders.

He is probably just deathly afraid if getting clowned by Anderson should he do well at 185. He will wait until ANderson retires/moves on to make his way to 185.
I'm not that sure of Rory not going to fight St. Pierre. Didn't he even mention that it were possibleż
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That's a joke right? Mike Pyle is a much better wrestler then Maia will ever be.
Maia is not a wrestler. Maia is a BJJ wizard. BJJ > Wrestling => Maia > Pyle

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Maia is not a wrestler. Maia is a BJJ wizard. BJJ > Wrestling => Maia > Pyle
Wrestlers are better at takedowns then BJJ guys. I think that is pretty obvious. Bring up Maia vs Chael if you want but there are far more examples of wrestlers dictating where the fight takes place then BJJ guys. We aren't talking who is the better grappler but who has the better take downs. But in general I would also disagree IMO wrestling is more dominant then BJJ.
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