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Old 03-08-2013, 10:39 AM   #51 (permalink)
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This conference call sums up why I don't like either guy. With that being said, I'll be rooting for Diaz by default. Great/entertaining call though, I'm of the belief that Diaz is actually just that dumb but in the midst of his stupidity, he's accidentally hyping the fight.
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:43 AM   #52 (permalink)
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I like Diaz and GSP for completely different reasons (and yes, I own a GSP shirt lol).

Besides his gritty toughness and fighting style, Nick's attitude has always been entertaining to me. He presents as a local bad boy, and does so honestly. When he says he likes to keep it real; he means it. He is who he is. Screw you if you don't like it. I respect that.

Despite that redeeming quality, let's face it: it's beyond his ability to articulate thoughts and feelings. It has nothing to do with his apparent lack of education; he simply can't formulate his thoughts in a coherent fashion - and then he comes across like an idiot, making very little sense. Sadly, I think he had some valid points to make, but his words stumble out like drunks from the local gin mill at closing time.

Sprinkle in a little of his thinly veiled animosity toward successful/popular fighters with an internal conflict between a desire to have all that successful/popular fighters have and a refusal to do what it takes to have it . . . . it's clear why he really IS a freaking mess.

This conference call was highly entertaining and is the kind of stuff that makes us all want to see a war, despite whose train we ride.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:14 PM   #53 (permalink)
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I'm of the belief that Diaz is actually just that dumb but in the midst of his stupidity, he's accidentally hyping the fight.
Not sure how people can say this if they have ever even followed Nick's career. He was calling for Georges back in Pride and Elite XC. He has wanted and promoted this fight for a long long time.

Just because a guy doesn't speak well doesn't mean he is as dumb as he sounds. If a dude has a stuttering problem do we ridicule him and say how dumb he is? This is no different. Nick Diaz doesn't speak very well and doesn't convey his feelings very well through speech...that is evident. Not all people in this world do. Doesn't mean he is dumb as far as knowing what is what. People don't understand the genius that is Anderson and Diaz. People take them more serious than they should. People seemed to get it with Sonnen...because it was so blatantly obvious that it was an act...a 3 year old could of picked up on that. But when guys like Anderson and Diaz troll, people don't see it. Anderson and Diaz both laugh at how riled up they get the public.

Diaz laughs at a lot of stuff he says and knows he goes over the top. He WANTS to get under GSPs skin as much as possible, why wouldn't he?

When Sonnen did it to Anderson...it was "genius".

When Nick does it his way....he is stupid.

It is hilarious that people set such a double standard. Just like Anderson....when he says stuff like he wants to fight Le or Sonnen doesn't deserve a shot....he is ducking guys. But if Sonnen says something ridiculous to troll....it is genius. People really make no sense.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:34 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Yeah Diaz is doing all the right things to get under Gsp's skin and George is biting.
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I'm obviously a big Diaz fan. But I realize he has little chances if GSP fights like he normally does. If GSP opens up and really tries to hurt Diaz, Nick will have a better shot at winning. If GSP jab jab, TD, short elbows all night....Diaz has little to no chance of winning.
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Also i didnt hear Nick say that GSP is more undeserving of what he has. I cant say i heard him even insinuate it. Can you find me which quote you are referring to???
Perhaps I misunderstood but Diaz was saying, and i'm paraphrasing:
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"I don't have someone to get my water bottles for me... GSP has someone powder his nose for him. I dont have someone getting my training ready for me. I have to do this shit on my own and that's why I have to concentrate harder and do so much more. I dont have people sending tweets out for me or taking care of my financial...all that important stuff...I'm pretty ****ed there! I'm too busy fighting all your fights!"
In the very least it sounds like Diaz wants to be recognized for working harder than GSP. But why should he? GSP deserves what he has; he worked for it! To me it sounds like Diaz feels he deserves all of that stuff and doesn't understand why someone like GSP should get what he doesn't have. As I said before Nick simply fails at playing the celebrity game. Nick refuses to embrace the villain ala Chael Sonnen, and can't possibly hope to be the good guy when he flips 90% off in the match, no shows for conferences, gets busted for drugs etc. Diaz wants big money but seems oblivious that he is his own biggest enemy when it comes to signing a big sponsorship deal. Diaz' "keeping it real" apparently involves whining about how "****ed" he is and how hard he has to work, but not being willing to work to change that.

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Nick understands exactly the way the game is played, he's just having none of the bullshit. He isn't prepared to sell himself out in order to make money. That was his entire point all along. The entire gist of his argument was that GSP has to think VERY CAREFULLY about every thing he says under the spotlight and has his agents and advisers telling him what to say as a professional rather than saying what's actually on his mind and how he really feels.

He was basically saying that GSP is full of shit and never actually really expresses how he feels because he has people doing that for him. Nick understands that's how the game is played and he wants nothing to do with it; "he knows he he comes from" and he will say it as it is and how he feels, he doesn't give a shit.

I mean, GSP has a twitter where other people are tweeting for him? WTF is this nonsense, I thought the entire idea behind twitter was to make it a tool for fans to chat directly with their favourite stars and celebrities? I think that proves Nicks point entirely. GSP is a fake, robotic personalty.
But Diaz whines about not making as much money. Diaz has done this in several interviews. Also in the interview in question Diaz repeatedly says he has to work harder because he isn't willing to play the game. Personally I believe Diaz feels like he deserves all the stuff GSP has because he keeps it real, when in fact it is the exact opposite. GSP had to sacrifice his soul for those things.

If I am wrong and Diaz truly just believes in keeping it real and doesn't care about the money or the bonus' that come with having a real entourage then Diaz should stop complaining about having to work harder for what he gets.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:22 PM   #57 (permalink)
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I think GSP came off as goofy while Nick came off as loony. Not exactly the good image for either, but you can tell GSP was really getting pissed off Nick was interrupting GSP's questions and went after GSP, and then just went off about random stuff. If Nick wanted to get under GSP's skin here, then imo he succeeded. But honestly I think Nick was trying to be sincere here, just didnt put it together well.
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Old 03-08-2013, 03:20 PM   #58 (permalink)
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OMG! That's sooo cute.

Nick is just a sensitive guy who doesn't like being cast as the "bad guy". His feelings are hurt.

And of course he's never disrespected GSP.

Except when he grabbed the mic in the center of the octagon and accused GSP of faking an injury in front 20,000 fans and everyone watching the PPV.

Rather silly for GSP to take offense to that. If another fighter had done that to Nick, he no doubt would just let it roll off his back.

It's funny how Nick doesn't seem to grasp the concept of hyping a fight. Or how he takes what others say like "the most disrespectful human being" and adds words like "piece of sh!t".

GSP never called him a piece of sh!t. But we wouldn't want to let facts get in the way of a good Diaz rant now would we.

Should be a great fight!

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Nick understands exactly the way the game is played, he's just having none of the bullshit. He isn't prepared to sell himself out in order to make money. That was his entire point all along. The entire gist of his argument was that GSP has to think VERY CAREFULLY about every thing he says under the spotlight and has his agents and advisers telling him what to say as a professional rather than saying what's actually on his mind and how he really feels.

He was basically saying that GSP is full of shit and never actually really expresses how he feels because he has people doing that for him. Nick understands that's how the game is played and he wants nothing to do with it; "he knows he he comes from" and he will say it as it is and how he feels, he doesn't give a shit.

I mean, GSP has a twitter where other people are tweeting for him? WTF is this nonsense, I thought the entire idea behind twitter was to make it a tool for fans to chat directly with their favourite stars and celebrities? I think that proves Nicks point entirely. GSP is a fake, robotic personalty.

You are partially correct.

GSP doesn't have to think very carefully about he says. He CHOOSES to think very carefully about what he says.

Just like every other sports star in every major professional sport. Sidney Crosby, Tom Brady, LeBron James.

You don't get sponsorships with major corporations like Under Armour and Gatorade for sounding like a thug.

And when you get to the top and are under intense media scrutiny most sports stars simply don't want the aggravation of saying "what's really on their mind" only to have that sound byte plastered all over SportsCenter for the next week and then have to answer 3,487 questions in the next week about one quote.

Nick is free to "keep it real" all he wants. That is his choice and it will be the direct reason he doesn't get all of things he says he wants.

And FYI...Diaz has more than enough money to hire people to "pamper" him. The fact he stills looks after his own finances is another choice.

Accountants are not expensive. Neither are publicists or assistants to help manage public appearances and conferences calls.
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:28 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Diaz sounds like he's already lost. And as clueless/dumb as ever. Too bad - he'd be a helluva lot better if he got his head screwed on straight.
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Old 03-08-2013, 10:59 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Im with Nick here. Ive been moaning about stalling etc for years

Its the one thing wrong with the sport

I also think its Nick's vernacular that makes people think he is dumb or whatever. When you listen to what he's saying he makes alot of sense

And i think he has achieved his goal of keeping it real. Ive always said he is nothing if not genuine - i rate that quality, we cant all be perfect
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