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JDS probably has better BJJ than Struve. Struve's length is what makes him good on the ground. But people overrated his BJJ, he has sub'd bums thus far. Hunt did very well to defend, but JDS is probably the better grappler out of him and Struve.
Then again I am basing that off rep and physical skills, we haven't seen much of JDS on the ground.
Originally Posted by GrappleRetarded
You can't evaluate some ones ground game like that when the only times we have seen Junior on the ground for any extended period of time he's ever been submitted (early fight), swept and reversed (Carwin) and shown ZERO submission offense. (Cain)
I'm not willing to just give Junior the benefit of the doubt on the ground because he trains with the Nog brothers, from what we have seen from JDS on the ground so far, he's been very underwhelming to say the least.
Given the extended amount of time we've seen Struve on the ground and how comfortable he is in that position compared to Junior, it's logical to say that he's demonstrated the better ground game and is likely to be better on the ground than Dos Santos.
I agree with GrappleRetarded. The only time we've seen Dos Santos do technique on the ground was when he rolled with Machida (a bit more than half a year ago). And he definitely lacked a black belt worthy flow while rolling.
In his actual fights he has shown NOTHING to make think he were a bigger thread on the ground than Struve (who purposely pulled guard from the clinch on different occasions). On the contrary even, not only did he show ZERO submission offence against Velasquez who constantly put him on his back, but while taking Carwin down, he even once ended up in some sort of a guillotine at the end of the round:
Man I like both guys but I'm jumping ship to the Super Samoan.
I feel like JDS can outstrike anyone in the HW division EXCEPT Hunt. Hunt isn't Nelson, he isn't just all chin ... he's deceptively fast and has very technical boxing and footwork when you break it down.
If JDS takes this down he may win, but on the feet I think he may actually be outgunned for a change. Besides, whether people agree or not, I feel that where a fighter is in his personal life plays a big part in how he performs, and I just don't think JDS is in that great a place after his divorce right now.
To clarify Hunt is by far a superior striker than Nelson although both have solid chins while Hunt probably more durable.
Speed wise they're about the same although I've began to take notice that he lands his combinations with surprising speed. Hunt's like a hippo. I saw this video of a hippo being hunted by five lions. In an instant the hippo turned around and snapped the neck of the lion and that was that.
But the problem has always been his conditioning at least in an MMA setting. JDS fought five rounds against Cain while getting battered. Can Hunt last all five rounds and maintain his power.
Definitely not ruling out Hunt because he's shown what he can do. I feel that speed, movement, conditioning, and hunger is on JDS's side. This is the same fighter who was supposed to go against Overeem and said fawk it we'll take Hunt. Same fighter who decided to fight against Brock/Carwin even though he was granted a title shot.
Although Hunt is experiencing a huge resurgence I think JDS's will to win will be the deciding factor. I'm not sure if JDS will TKO Hunt, so I'll say UD.
I'd like to see Hunt vs Overeem as well and Nelson.
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