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I'm guessing GSP actually DOES speak better english than Nick. He definitely makes more sense.
There is absolutly nothing wrong with Nick Diaz's english.

It's the way that he expresses himself that he has a problem with, the rambling and the pausing and the train of thought...


But his english? I've never known him to struggle with a sentence because he could say the word in the english language.


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Diaz proves he can speak decent on that radio interview.

When he isn't all hyped up and trying to say all of his points at once he can talk pretty normally.

I think he pauses a lot and thinks about his answer because his answers are genuine and he wants to give a decent reply rather than run of the mill bullshit. That or he is trying to calm himself down before he starts talking.
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I am fairly sure this is GSP saying that he thought the term "motherfukcer" implies incestuous behaviour. Native speaker or not, I would bet my house that he's heard that term atleast hundreds of times before.
My mum hates that word, because she understands it literally despite most of the english speaking world not. So i'd imagine its pretty easy for a non native speaker to take it literally too!
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I can understand his accent.
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The pre-fight hype for GSP v Diaz has been the funniest of all-time.

Neither speaks English well enough for the other to understand lol.
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The pre-fight hype for GSP v Diaz has been the funniest of all-time.

Neither speaks English well enough for the other to understand lol.
Man I agree on so many levels! I watched a few of their vids and blew out laughing at a few of their interactions.


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My mum hates that word, because she understands it literally despite most of the english speaking world not. So i'd imagine its pretty easy for a non native speaker to take it literally too!
Eh, I think that's just your mom being obtuse. Language is fluid and evolving and its commonly accepted that that word doesn't literally mean that. Did she also go try to find you a warm hat and gloves everytime someone called you cool?

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Eh, I think that's just your mom being obtuse. Language is fluid and evolving and its commonly accepted that that word doesn't literally mean that. Did she also go try to find you a warm hat and gloves everytime someone called you cool?
Some slang means different things to different people. Who am I to tell anyone that 'motherfuc*er' doesn't legitimately mean 'a mother fuc*er'? Referring to someone as slow (obtuse isn't very nice, HR!) because they take a word literally seems unnecessary. This is especially true when plenty of literature suggests that 'motherfuc*er' initially meant exactly what it implies... one who fuc*s mothers.

Not everything is so black and white. We can say that 'the world doesn't literally mean that', but do you really know what the term 'motherfuc*er' entails in Brazil? Or Italy? Or Africa? Or Spain? You may have an idea of what it implies in North America, but most of us have no idea how the term is received in China, Japan, or most places outside of North American films and rap music.

I live right on the border of Ontario and Quebec, and I can safely say that certain terms and slang don't translate well. There's no shortage of slang that doesn't translate on both fronts. I'm more inclined to believe that GSP's English is good enough and that he's been exposed to English speaking cultures enough to know what motherfuc*er refers to. But who am I to really say that.

We could do this all day. There are PLENTY of people out there who believe that referring to something as 'gay' is to suggest that it is lame, or that referring to someone as a 'f a g' is to imply that said person is a douche. But you try convincing the gay community of that. Words that mean one thing to us can have very different meanings to others.
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I said she was being obtuse. As in choosing not to understand the term. From DonRifle's post I think it's clear that she's well-aware most other people don't take the phrase that way, she's not actually too slow to understand what is meant, she doesn't want to look at it that way. That's all.

No, the world is not black and white. That's why it's often a good idea to err on the side of NOT getting upset when its a shade of gray in communication. If I wanted to I could etymologically examine lots of words even right here in this thread and take them in ways their speaker obviously did not intend and get all mad. Many people would think me unreasonable and rightly so. Context is important, but it sounds like she's not considering that (or rather, choosing to avoid viewing it in context at all) which is also what I think GSP is guilty of here.

But really, I guess I could start flipping out on every brit who asks me to bum a ***

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Eh, I think that's just your mom being obtuse. Language is fluid and evolving and its commonly accepted that that word doesn't literally mean that. Did she also go try to find you a warm hat and gloves everytime someone called you cool?
When i moved to America and did not speak the language very well i had a hard time understanding the word mother****er as anything else except Mother-****er... I used to think that the english language was very weird because of it. Also the word "Flipped off" confused me. I didnt understand how showing someone the middle finger was called throwing someone upside on his head. lol

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