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View Poll Results: do you find GSP exciting?

yes, he's one of the most exciting guys in the sport 7 4.64%
he's boring as **** and i'm tired of him 52 34.44%
george is the consummate MMA champion, show some respect 22 14.57%
he's not one of the most exciting guys but he's not boring either 51 33.77%
i'm tired of you JUST BLEED fans. go watch backyard brawling instead 19 12.58%
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:37 AM   #41 (permalink)
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It feels so long ago when GSP was taking out guys like Sherk, Hughes, Heiron, and Trigg in impressive fashion. In their 3rd encounter he even made Matt Hughes say Matai. Doesn't finish anybody anymore. I feel like an old-timer for saying this but I actually miss does days.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:48 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Not long ago the young upstart from Montreal tore through the competition with finishes. Three reasons.

1.) Greg Jackson style of fights. Holding on the belt implementing the most tactically and strategically sound game plan to take limited amount of damage.
2.) The Terror.
3.) Strangely he simply does not have the KO power even with all those muscles. It's almost like those muscles are trained to do other functions; wrestling/grappling.

What can I say.
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Old 03-17-2013, 09:51 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I agree. Like what Dana said, if you don't want wrestler to pin you down, is your job to stuff or prevent them from doing it.

If you are a champion with skills of GSP, you will be doing exactly what he is doing. Take your opponent out of their strong confort zone and fight them where their are at their weakest.

But yeah, it kind of bother me that GSP doesn't take (even a small) risk finish his opponent. I don't blame him against Diaz or Condit though. When was the last time those 2 guys was finished?

On a side note, I thought he would have finished Dan Hardy with that Kimura if wasn't worrying for the safety of Hardy.
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It's called staying busy and playing safe, learn the lingo. GSP is an underachiever, and I think he chooses to be.
I don't have to learn anything. I'm not the one in here making false accusations out of frustration. Not once have I said 'GSP looked like Anderson Silva in the standup' or 'that was some of the most vicious ground and pound I've ever seen'. Frankly, I've said in nearly every thread that GSP looked to be fighting at around 60%. But that doesn't change the fact that nothing GSP did last night can be considered blanketing or lay and pray. It seems most people don't actually know what that is but are content to use it to gratify themselves nonetheless. You disgruntled folk can bandy that term about all you like, but it simply isn't the case.
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Old 03-17-2013, 10:24 AM   #45 (permalink)
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I don't have to learn anything. I'm not the one in here making false accusations out of frustration. Not once have I said 'GSP looked like Anderson Silva in the standup' or 'that was some of the most vicious ground and pound I've ever seen'. Frankly, I've said in nearly every thread that GSP looked to be fighting at around 60%. But that doesn't change the fact that nothing GSP did last night can be considered blanketing or lay and pray. It seems most people don't actually know what that is but are content to use it to gratify themselves nonetheless. You disgruntled folk can bandy that term about all you like, but it simply isn't the case.
I agree he doesn't lay and pray. The problem is he gets himself in some really good positions and doesn't do anything.
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Out of these choices I'd probably have to go with he's boring as **** and i'm tired of him although my opinion is just that he's boring as ****.
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I agree he doesn't lay and pray. The problem is he gets himself in some really good positions and doesn't do anything.
Now that I agree with. I actually think GSP was capable of doing some REAL damage to Diaz last night. Finishes aside, he had Nick in perfect positions for opening up cuts, etc. Georges even said he could have taken Nick's back a few times but did not want to. Comments like that bother me as well, but again, what do you tell a guy who still dominates his opponents when fighting at half capacity, sells out arenas and stadiums, and continues to shatter UFC records? A few disgruntled fans on the internet isn't going to be enough to get GSP to change his tactics, nor should it be.

I've only ever seen GSP booed once, and that was in Toronto when it became abundantly clear that he could have finished Shields on the feet but chose not to. If the fans continue to cheer and Georges continues to have such overwhelming success, he won't change. That said, I'm also a believer that in order for GSP to have good to great fights, his opponent needs to be game (ie. Condit). Nick was not game last night, and allowed GSP to get comfortable.
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He is boring, fights safe, etc. But he is still one of the best around and best all-time. And I will keep going out of my way to see him fight because of it, and to see him lose one day.
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Last night he had no choice to be boring. In the 3rd round when they stood and really exchanged Diaz was really taking it to him. After that he would only punch to set up his take downs.

Gsp is not a good stand up fighter due to his lack of confidence ...
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nothing GSP did last night can be considered blanketing or lay and pray. It seems most people don't actually know what that is but are content to use it to gratify themselves nonetheless. You disgruntled folk can bandy that term about all you like, but it simply isn't the case.
They can see a great example of what L&P looks like by watching the Hendricks/Condit fight last night.

Don't get me wrong, it was a great fight, but when ever Hendricks took down Condit all he did was L&P.

If I were judging that fight, during those take downs I would have been calling those take downs a draw and not counting them as scoring at all for anyone ... maybe even giving Condit a few points for doing damage in some cases.

There used to be a guide for newbies sticky thread that had information on the finer points of the sport that went beyond bar brawler style .. someone should make it a sticky again.

Even the GSP/Diaz fight, if some people didn't see a top notch GJJ practitioner trying to get into position for a sub attempt, and a great wrestler with good JJ knowledge keeping out of a bad position, all the while working his way into a good G&P position, then these people need to go sign up for a class in the MAA school for the hopelessly blind.

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