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Old 03-20-2013, 10:22 PM   #31 (permalink)
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With GSP's people suggesting a 6 month rest, given two quick fights, and a possibly injured achilles, that makes it Oct at least before there will be a WW championship fight .... stretch it out another 2 months and there's probably time for a final #1 contender fight.

Put it on a card with another championship match, and they could have a 3 round fight rather than a main event 5 round match, and that might work out ok.
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Old 03-21-2013, 06:47 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Past fights don't matter and that's what you don't get. He wasn't fading, maybe he's faded before but that's not the discussion. You know, the thread title saying that his hand wasn't broken and you want to go off an arrogant tangent being a complete douche about it, I don't care about your rants because they are nonsense. Telling me disregard the Condit fight in a thread about the Condit fight.... get a grip bud, your irreverent lectures are a waste of time
Ok, personal insults aside, explain whats so wrong with the idea that Hendrix's performance in fights gets markedly worse as his fights go on. Hendrix in round one is a totally different beast to Hendrix in round 3. That's in *all* of his fights. Sure, there are lots of fighters who degrade as a fight wears on... but GSP isnt one of them. Everything points to Hendrix looking pretty damn poor in the championship rounds.

The above opinion ( as well as CP's view ) is based on form, not some random thoughts we might have whilst taking a shit. All we have to base opinions on is form. Thats it. We dont train with these guys. We dont speak to them. We can only go by the actual fights. And when looking at the actual fights, it's clear Hendrix is not a strong fighter after round 2.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:36 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Past fights don't matter and that's what you don't get. He wasn't fading, maybe he's faded before but that's not the discussion. You know, the thread title saying that his hand wasn't broken and you want to go off an arrogant tangent being a complete douche about it, I don't care about your rants because they are nonsense. Telling me disregard the Condit fight in a thread about the Condit fight.... get a grip bud, your irreverent lectures are a waste of time
Past fights matter when you're discussing a pattern/history of fading.

lol, jog on. I can't debate with someone so wilfully blind.
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Yep, that's me

I very rarely dismiss anyone's opinion. Not that these things matter in the grand scheme of things, but I haven't garnered a good reputation at this forum because I'm dismissive or think myself the epitome of MMA knowledge. I've been wrong in the past, and I own up to it. I've been schooled by posters who know ten times more than I do. And while I may be a bit aggressive or heated during certain discussions, I'd like to think it basic sense that what I'm saying or arguing is - in fact - my opinion and nothing more. I want to believe that enough people at this forum are intelligent enough to realize that my posts are my opinion, without my having to add 'imo' at the end of each and every one. My word is not gospel. It's opinion.

You're entitled to think whatever you like of me. It's your opinion, and - gasp - I support your being entitled to it. I enjoy discussing MMA, and as I said, I can get pretty into it. But that doesn't change the fact that all I'm offering is an opinion. Is it reality to me? Yes. Do I believe that everyone shares or ought to share my views? No.
I'm not saying you don't have the right to an opinion, far from it, the fact that you felt it necessary to question my intelligence for not realizing it was your opinion made me chuckle as I don't expect you to put 'imo' at the start of everything but respect should go both ways and arguing like a child and throwing your toys out the pram because of a difference of opinion is never really solved anything

You show your own evaluated status of self worth by thinking the reputation system on here means anything... I have been repped for having a difference with opinion with some people even had a stalker who gave me neg rep once a month before I could see who he was just for having a different point of view.

Hi John8204 my favorite reason from him was I hate you but you still seem to be able to post or see your still despised guess you shouldn't have negged me bitch... All of which I had quite a few people pos rep me for the same post

So as for the rep that you have accumulated don't let it affect your ego

As a lurker though i have noticed certain people that I have had debates with about certain fighter and wouldn't hear a good word said about now hanging off said fighters nuts like a lifelong supporter.

I would also say based on your posts that you don't believe everyone should share your opinion, but on the crazy occasion they don't, well they must be stupid or dissmissed as such right

If lost count of the amount of times I've seen things twisted out of context on here to suit someones arguement. Which is another reason I tend to not post.

Also there is a difference between being heated in a debate and being an ass that derails any conversation for ones own self worth... e.g. in a thread about Hendricks vs Conduit we are told not asked to ignore the conduit fight...

I also never said that Hendricks wasn't starting to gas a bit, do I think Conduit would have won a 5 rounder, Yes but only because his conditioning is better and to be fair Hendricks went all out those first 2 rounds, needs to pace himself better against GSP. Consider this more the straw that broke the camels back and don't take it personally or think that I am saying it's just you as there are a group of people on here who almost post like their word is gospel...
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I'm not saying you don't have the right to an opinion, far from it, the fact that you felt it necessary to question my intelligence for not realizing it was your opinion made me chuckle as I don't expect you to put 'imo' at the start of everything but respect should go both ways and arguing like a child and throwing your toys out the pram because of a difference of opinion is never really solved anything

You show your own evaluated status of self worth by thinking the reputation system on here means anything... I have been repped for having a difference with opinion with some people even had a stalker who gave me neg rep once a month before I could see who he was just for having a different point of view.

Hi John8204 my favorite reason from him was I hate you but you still seem to be able to post or see your still despised guess you shouldn't have negged me bitch... All of which I had quite a few people pos rep me for the same post

So as for the rep that you have accumulated don't let it affect your ego

As a lurker though i have noticed certain people that I have had debates with about certain fighter and wouldn't hear a good word said about now hanging off said fighters nuts like a lifelong supporter.

I would also say based on your posts that you don't believe everyone should share your opinion, but on the crazy occasion they don't, well they must be stupid or dissmissed as such right

If lost count of the amount of times I've seen things twisted out of context on here to suit someones arguement. Which is another reason I tend to not post.

Also there is a difference between being heated in a debate and being an ass that derails any conversation for ones own self worth... e.g. in a thread about Hendricks vs Conduit we are told not asked to ignore the conduit fight...

I also never said that Hendricks wasn't starting to gas a bit, do I think Conduit would have won a 5 rounder, Yes but only because his conditioning is better and to be fair Hendricks went all out those first 2 rounds, needs to pace himself better against GSP. Consider this more the straw that broke the camels back and don't take it personally or think that I am saying it's just you as there are a group of people on here who almost post like their word is gospel...

Hmm....
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Old 03-21-2013, 04:08 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Hmm....
To be fair you could have highlighted more than just that line

But the derailing happened on the 2nd page I just carried it on. Way to quote a whole paragraph to add nothing but 'hmmm' to the convo though
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I am still trying to understand why these matches that are pretty much to establish a number one contender are only 3 rounds... I think all matches for those that have any top 10 against one another should be 5 rounds; all top 5 fighters should be in 5 round fights period.
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To be fair you could have highlighted more than just that line

But the derailing happened on the 2nd page I just carried it on. Way to quote a whole paragraph to add nothing but 'hmmm' to the convo though
Contributed and ignored as you had continued the derailment
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Old 03-21-2013, 04:46 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Contributed and ignored as you had continued the derailment
Yea I remember reading that actually and I think with the amount of UFC events number 1 contender fights should be main fights of the card where title fights aren't available making them 5 rounds

There's your response... As for being ignored I've posted countless questions to try and engage people and get ignored so I guess welcome to the club...
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You show your own evaluated status of self worth by thinking the reputation system on here means anything...

So as for the rep that you have accumulated don't let it affect your ego
When I referred to 'reputation', I wasn't referring to little red or green bars. I was referring to rapport - as in, I have a good rapport with most of the people here. I've never put much stock in positive or negative reps.

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I would also say based on your posts that you don't believe everyone should share your opinion, but on the crazy occasion they don't, well they must be stupid or dissmissed as such right
I'm not entirely sure I agree, but fair enough. I tend to dismiss people who are hostile towards me. rabakill called me out and referred to me as 'ignorant' long before I fired back at him. I respond in kind, and I'm not ashamed to admit that. If you act like a knob towards me, expect the same in return.

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Also there is a difference between being heated in a debate and being an ass that derails any conversation for ones own self worth... e.g. in a thread about Hendricks vs Conduit we are told not asked to ignore the conduit fight...
How ironic. You're twisting facts to suit your own argument. I never said to 'ignore the Condit fight in a thread about Hendricks vs. Condit'. I made the argument that Hendricks fades. I was met with 'no he doesn't, he was hurt', And I responded with 'well, ignore the injury and look to other fights that demonstrate Hendricks' tendency for fading further and further into the fight'. My argument was never that the injury didn't play a part - I even admitted that it might have. My argument was that Johny fades regardless. When I'm told he doesn't fade and that he only looked weaker because of his injuries, I'm inclined to raise other fights as evidence supporting my argument. That's how debating works.

You and rabakill can say that I asked you to ignore the Condit fight in a thread about Condit vs. Hendricks, but you're ignoring my entire argument in the process - that being that Hendricks fades in fights that go passed the first round.

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Consider this more the straw that broke the camels back and don't take it personally or think that I am saying it's just you as there are a group of people on here who almost post like their word is gospel...
I don't take anything on here personally. It's a forum. On the internet. It's not meant to be taken so seriously that it becomes a burden.

Anyway, back on topic... good for Hendricks. His title shot is a long time coming. But GSP will weather the early storm, IMO, and Hendricks will break under the riddum.
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