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post #11 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-20-2013, 05:44 PM
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Though he is a champion... He will never be a UFC champion sadly. He may become one of those guys who become a great coach or go into politics but he will succeed in all things lacking a UFC belt.

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I think he beats any WW out there in a 5 round fight... besides GSP, but after another year or two of constantly fighting the top 10 at WW i think he will be ready for GSP.

He either needs to improve his wrestling, or at least get some solid TDD

Head-butting fists and KOing the air is not effective striking.
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i'm not even sure he is a top 5 guy. i think gsp, maia, Hendericks or rory would beat him at this moment. that makes him 5th at best. i think fitch would beat him right now too.

full disclosure: i thought Diaz beat him at the time, but have changed my opinion since, and i actually like condit for the most part.
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Nope. Can't wrestler welterweight is notorious for monster wrestlers

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This, plus he is too big to go down to LW and too small to go up to MW.
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I think he will always hang around the top, but until he has adequate TDD I don't think he will be the champ.
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Depends whose holding the belt.
I agree with the above. In the current state of the WW divisions carlos will not hold a belt. If GSP retires things might change.


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Probably not but he is still a great fighter and one of the most entertaining fighters in the sport.
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I don't see him dropping out of the top 5 for quite some time. As for the belt, that depends on his future focus/training. Do you think he can strengthen his current weaknesses enough? IDK. What I do know is that he's smart enough to make the right moves. But is he dedicated enough to do the necessary work, and will he be able to soak it up? We'll see, I guess. I hope so, though. I like this dude, all around.

Condit may end up being the best WW ever who never held the belt. :[

...Imagine Condit with way better wrestling, against a GSP with no holding back. That would be awesome.
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not as long as he's around.

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Carlos is my favorite WW, and has been for a long time. I personally think an argument could be made for him to have gotten the judges nod Saturday, but I also have no problem with Johnny picking it up... it was super close and an awesome fight. Having said that my question is this. Carlos will be 29 next month, and I don't think he's at his primie yet. Most male athletes tend to peak in their early 30s. I believe Carlos has the ability to stop GSP, and could beat Hendrix in a rematch. Anyway, I truly believe Carlos will eventually hold the belt, if only for a few fights... what do you guys think?
Incorrect, your athletic peak is in your mid-to-late 20s, by the time you hit 30 your body is already slowing down.

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Incorrect, your athletic peak is in your mid-to-late 20s, by the time you hit 30 your body is already slowing down.
That's a debatable topic that I've heard many different sides of. Most larger athletes fall into what you're suggesting... but most endruance based athletes peak in their late 20s/early 30s and MMA is without question an endurance sport.

As far as the general concensus around here goes. I actually think Carlos as the best chance of beating GSP, and should Hendrix beat George, and Carlos wins his next fight or two... that is a very promotable rematch, the Hendrix/Condit fight easily could have been scored the other way.

It's funny that Diaz was bitching about the scoring system after his fight (as he always does I know)... but the truth is Carlos had the most reason to be pissed, but he's too classy to bitch.
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That's a debatable topic that I've heard many different sides of. Most larger athletes fall into what you're suggesting... but most endruance based athletes peak in their late 20s/early 30s and MMA is without question an endurance sport.

As far as the general concensus around here goes. I actually think Carlos as the best chance of beating GSP, and should Hendrix beat George, and Carlos wins his next fight or two... that is a very promotable rematch, the Hendrix/Condit fight easily could have been scored the other way.

It's funny that Diaz was bitching about the scoring system after his fight (as he always does I know)... but the truth is Carlos had the most reason to be pissed, but he's too classy to bitch.
On average, test levels start to drop after 25.

Take a look at this page with stats from the 2012 olympics.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/data...al-winners#age

Over two thirds of the medalists were between the ages of 20-30. And I would be willing to bet if you cut out the non-athletic events like archery and equestrian riding that percentage would grow.

ETA specifically, take a look at the average age for wrestling (26), judo (26), boxing (25), and taekwondo (23).

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