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post #21 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-22-2013, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mo25 View Post

not as long as he's around.
That should be me in there!
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As others have stated, he REALLY needs to improve his TDD. His other skills though in just about every area are at the top of the heap. I'm amazed that he was able to get this far in the first place with such a huge hole in his wrestling game.
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post #23 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-22-2013, 12:50 PM
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Nah. He's at wrestlerweight but he can't wrestle. If he ever gets that part of his game fixed, he'll be a champ for sure.
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post #24 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-22-2013, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by leifdawg View Post
On average, test levels start to drop after 25.

Take a look at this page with stats from the 2012 olympics.


Over two thirds of the medalists were between the ages of 20-30. And I would be willing to bet if you cut out the non-athletic events like archery and equestrian riding that percentage would grow.

ETA specifically, take a look at the average age for wrestling (26), judo (26), boxing (25), and taekwondo (23).
While those figures are probably correct, I don't think MMA works quite like any of those individual martial art sports.

When you start mixing these sports together you move beyond simple speed and strength issues where youth plays a bigger part, and into a sport where experience and strategy plays a more important part, which comes with age.

While it may be that a young boxing/taekwondo practitioner might have an advantage over an older boxing/taekwondo practitioner, when it comes to becoming proficient in many martial arts, and knowing when to (and not to) use which technique, then the older person may actually have the bigger advantage (up to a point anyway. Maybe moving that 'peak' a bit past the mid twenties to give MMA fighters in the thirties a fighting chance.)

That's my opinion anyway, but it may be a bit outdated in that GSP may have 'moved the bar' a bit so that now the younger fighters are learning earlier that training in all the MMA disciplines, having a good strategy, and controlling your emotions is the key to winning, and not just being great at one aspect of MMA .. so now the younger fighters, with they better training, and the advatage of youth may make the days of 35-40 year old champions a thing of the past.
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i think the purely physical decline between 25-30 is completely negligible. From 30-35 that is very different for each individual, depending mostly on their genetics and how much punishment they have taken over the years. Even so the differences in speed, strength, explosiveness, endurance and reflexes between the two age groups is not a large gap... probably about a 5% decline, so skill and experience CAN more than make up for it in many cases.

so yes some fighters may be past their physical peak by a few years but might barely be entering their MMA peak... it really just depends on the fighter

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