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Really? How so?

Taking shots after the round is a DQing offence, not DQing him was an "on the fly" decision -- twice.

And while the normal rules is "1 lb allowance" for regular fights and "no allowance" for championship fights, there are exceptions to that rule:



So the rules were followed here as well (assuming GSP and/or Diaz were actually over the 170lb mark, which has yet to be shown, unlike the cheap shots, which there is no question about.)

Rules that Diaz got away with and no one seems to care:



But let GSP "abuse" a rule that is actually more to the benefit of Diaz than GSP (if it was violated by only GSP or at all) and guess who gets flack?
Yes, and the ref saw it and warned Nick. Case closed.

And I don't see how the rules were followed if they actually weighed in over 170.0. The rules you posted don't say anything about a WW championship fight being contested at 170.1 or more.

The other rules Nick broke were all inside the octagon where it is the ref's job to take care of them. If the ref didn't think it was against the rules then that's that.




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Did it determine the outcome? No.

Is it shady as hell and proof that GSP gets pampered. Yes.

If the UFC is taking down these videos then it sure seems like it is a "big deal" to them. No?
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To be fair as much as rules are rules, it's just the weigh in and both fighters will be fighting well above the 170 limit anyway come fight night. Saying that it's 100% shady the way the whole situation was handled doesn't paint the sport in a positive light. The fact the ufc took down the video just makes it look worse.

As for NoYards speech about how Diaz should have been DQ offence for striking out after the bell. UFC rules state it is at the referee discretion. Also saying that changing a rule set in stone e.g. weigh in limits is the same as something that should be at the referees discretion is not the same no matter how you try and spin it...

As for the rules grabbing the fence/gloves/shorts is also in the same bracket of offence and you always see it happen at least twice before they get a warning.

@NoYards... Serious question do you just defend GSP till the death, or do you detest Diaz because of his unique form of 'stand up lay and pray'?
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Nate Diaz missed weight on first attempt and everyone said how unprofessional he and his team were.

But since Georges gets to have a different set of rules to look like he is on weight....he is PROFESSIONAL AS IT GETS!

It is funny how peoples fandom or down right hatred for certain fighters cloud any sort of judgement on certain situations.
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Does anyone even know for a fact that George weighed in at 170.9 ???
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Does anyone even know for a fact that George weighed in at 170.9 ???
Nope. But we have assumptions and speculation, which in the land of the internet are as good as facts
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This is shady as hell. Anybody who has cut weight before knows how much 1 pound of water actually is. Think about a 16 oz. bottle of water. That's the extra amount that Diaz had to cut that GSP didn't.

Nick had virtually no chance of winning and it probably didn't make much of a difference but what the f***? I would be so pissed if I was Nick.




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Nate was told to lose .6 lbs. Go back and sweat it out.

Either Montreal has funky rules and seemed like an hour before hand would be a good time to let Nick know.

Or the whole commission or UFC changed the rules because they knew GSP was sick and having trouble.

I'm hoping it is the first one.
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Does anyone even know for a fact that George weighed in at 170.9 ???
I don't even think it's important. Weight classes are a joke anyway. What's important to me is that the unified rules of MMA state that both fighters must weigh in at 170 or below at a specific time. I'm pretty sure there's no rule that says "You guys get another hour to cut weight oh and by the way you don't have to make 170".




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Nope. But we have assumptions and speculation, which in the land of the internet are as good as facts
You guys completely miss the whole point.

The question isn't did GSP weigh in at 170.9. What is anyone here saying that has much to do with that? The question is what were Montreal's rules beforehand, and did anything change to accommodation a fighter?

Everyone is so quick to try and make this a DIaz vs GSP fans dramafest. It is more about the legitimacy of the sport. If they just changed criteria to fit the fight and get away with it, then what happenes next? Or 5 years from now?

This is boxing type stuff. And people rip boxing when anything corrupt happens.
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