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UFC Lightweight Melvin Guillard leaves Blackzillians

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#1 ·
After a 1-5 run with the Blackzillians, Guillard will be returning to his old home at Jackson's.

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It's been a rough year and a half for UFC Lightweight mainstay Melvin Guillard. Back in the fall of 2011, Guillard was on a 5-fight win streak and bordering on contendership. At the same time he left his longtime home at Greg Jackson's MMA to train with the fledgling Blackzillians. Since then, Guillard's fortunes have taken a turn, leaving him at a disappointing 1-4 in his last 5 fights.

Many feel that Guillard's current run and membership with the Florida-based camp are related as the Blackzillians have been on an unimpressive run of their own at the top level of MMA. It seems Guillard shares that sentiment since he announced on Twitter that he'll be leaving the Blackzillians to return to Jackson's MMA:


In his last fight, Melvin lost a competitive split decision to Jamie Varner at UFC 155. Although he avoided the mass-releases by the UFC in February, the veteran does not currently have a fight scheduled. We'll see once that happens whether or not Guillard's problems were more related to his training or the length of his career.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/3/2...ard-leaves-blackzillians-returns-jacksons-mma

It begins.....
 
#3 ·
The rest of the blackzilians should follow suit if they have any common sense. That camp is a sinkhole of crap training, gameplans and losses for otherwise talented top end fighters.

Let's see how Melvin does back at Jackson's, I'm guessing he's probably gonna fight a bit smarter and get some Ws.
 
#4 ·
as soon as rashad loses to dan henderson next or when vitor loses against rockhold i'll yet again repost in my blackzillians shoould be disbanded thread heh.
 
#14 ·
This really reminded me of the Lakers when Phil Jackson left for a hiatus. All star talent with no direction.

This has to be one of the most talented teams out there.

Although Tyrone and Anthony Johnson won recently. So it ain't all bad.

Lots of work needed though.
 
#17 ·
Man Good for him. I seriously believe Melvin is probably the Most Naturally gifted Talented fighter with the worst losses. When you watch him he should be a champion on a Jon Jones Level. But something just doesn't click with him. He seems to buckle when things don't go his way. But man if he could get his mental game together and tighten up some things I believe he could be great.
 
#25 ·
http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/...eam-jackson-winkeljohn-facing-assault-charges
Two months before UFC lightweight Melvin Guillard announced via Twitter that he was returning to Team Jackson-Winkeljohn in Albuquerque, N.M., the gym's leaders voted to keep him from doing so.

Guillard (30-12-2 MMA, 11-7 UFC) had inquired about a potential reunion through former teammates, who then passed word to the gym's administration. The vote was unanimous.


"The Young Assassin" had angered the team in interviews he gave about a move this past year to Florida's "Blackzilians" team, a source close to the MMA team told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com).

Adding to concerns, Guillard has two outstanding assault charges against him from separate incidents in Albuquerque in 2010, records show.

So when the fighter sent his tweet on Sunday – "Im no longer a blackzillian I went back to where I belong Jackson's," he wrote – the team was caught off guard.

"He's not allowed back here," said the source, who asked for anonymity given the sensitive nature of the talks and the team's history with the fighter.
 
#26 ·
Melvin is a prime example of why the Lightweight division is and was overrated.

Jackson didn't make him a better fighter, fighting Rony Torres, Shane Roller and Evan Dunham who turned out to be a dud made him a better fighter. Kudos to the Jackson camp on this move, he and Rashad will rue the day they left.


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#29 ·
Poor Melvin, curious to see where he ends up now.

Blackzillians - won't take him back
Jackson - won't have him
Renzo Gracie Combat Team - I doubt Alvarez would okay that
Ceasar Gracie - Don't think Nate would accept him, or wrestlers
Team Alpha Male - his style fits but I don't know if the personality would.

He's likely going to be stuck between Team Quest or Team Xtreme Couture
 
#34 ·
All of those guys are part of camps. Black House and Team Quest. Actually, every UFC, Bellator, WSOF etc. pro fighter is part of a camp. Every single one.

Training solo with a coach is all fine and dandy until you need to actually spar or roll. You know, hit and and be hit by a live, RESISTING opponent instead of playing pretend with pads that don't hit back, which any Nancy can do and feel like Anderson Silva. But if playing pretend is all you've done lately, you're going to be in for a shock once inside the cage, when the guy taking the pillow's place actually socks you one.

And if you spar or roll with guys that have no clue on how to resist someone at your level, it's called a waste of time and child-beating. Hence the concept of a camp of fighters near the same level.

You watched a few videos of black house guys hitting pads with a coach and assumed that's all they do and never spar? Seriously copter where do you get these outlandish ideas lol? There's plenty of videos of Anderson sparring with Machida, Erick Silva, the Nogs, and so on, so I guess they're all in on the whole circle jerk thing.

The closest thing to what you're saying was Fedor with his backwoods Stary Oskol camp, and even he had Alexander to spar and roll with as well as a few B-leaguers in the 2nd half of his career and a good number of world champ level ***** grapplers throughout.

I can understand not needing a giant fratboyish camp like Blackzilians, but your idea of anyone fighting at this level while going solo, hitting pads and practicing katas with some Mr. Miyagi is pure fantasy.
 
#32 ·
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/3/25/4146080/ufc-fighter-melvin-guillard-assault-charges-new-mexico-blackzillians-greg-jackson

Oh Melvin.

The struggling UFC Lightweight Melvin Guillard kicked off a spate of bad publicity last night when he prematurely tweeted that he would be returning to Greg Jackson's MMA camp in New Mexico.

Now we find out that Guillard is also facing assault charges in New Mexico. Steven Marrocco reports:

According to Bernalillo County (N.M.) court records, Guillard currently faces five charges: two misdemeanor counts of aggravated battery, to which he pled not guilty. Three misdemeanor counts of failure to appear in court were settled. A jury trial on the assault charges is set for April 10, where he faces six months in jail for each count, in addition to fines and probation.

When it rains it pours.
And it continues to get stranger.
 
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#39 ·
why are people still forgetting about Tyrone Spong? He just knocked out Remy Bonjasky and he won his first MMA fight via KO in the first round.
 
#41 ·
Wasn't that impressed with Rumble beating AA. They both looked like crap. Rumble throwing looping screamers all night. AA not able to capitalize on the big openings he left. Then Rumble went into hang on wrestler mode for the rest of the fight.

I think Blackzillians have a decent set of fighters. Good strikers. Experienced guys. Probably some good sparring. Problem is they are all idiots and have little guidance of an actual coach or level headed people.
 
#43 ·
Rashad basically needs to wrestle fock anyone he can. He thinks he is a decent striker, and he isn't.

I'm worried about this Hendo fight. It has a good chance of being crappy. With Rashad laying on him for 3 rounds. He can't afford a loss, and standing even for 1 minute with Hendo is stupid.

It is amazing how Hendo was one of the most entertaining guys for a stretch, Feijao, Fedor, Shogun....then they give him guys like Machida and Rashad who can only make his fights into crap. THe man is 42 years old, if he isn't going to fight for the title, give him fun matchups.
 
#44 ·
I'm glad to here this I feel Guillard was at his best with Jackson's and the blackzilians really haven't seemed to be having much success. I think the blackzilians have a very laid back kinda gym which is enjoyable and certain fighters train better under these kind of circumstances but Guillard I think is the kind of fighter who needs to be told what to do in training for fights.
 
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