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Gegard Mousasi 25 48.08%
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post #21 of 139 (permalink) Old 03-29-2013, 03:44 PM
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420 That's a pretty ignorant thing to say that Mousasi/Fedor/Diaz are overrated.

If the same Gus that fought Rua comes in, he'll win the fight via very close decision. Gegard has tons of experience and has great striking. It's going to truly show where both guys are in the division, but it's too bad they didn't split them up as I see them both as contenders.

Either way we get treated to an awesome fight!
No it isn't...

Fedor was considered the best heavyweight in the world all because he had beat up on freakshow cans and other mediocre lightweight heavyweights. Soon as he fought some top notch fighters he lost. And as soon as he went back to fighting cans he starts demolishing them again... He is a good fighter that should be fighting at LHW, he is very skilled but outmatched against top HW fighters.

Diaz was considered to be the best WW and MW fighter by many. They thought he would destroy GSP and possibly even beat Silva... Imo he isn't and never was a top 5 WW fighter...

Lombard again same thing. Considered the best blah blah blah comes to the UFC and craps the bed...

That is what happens when you are a decent fighter and you fight poor quality opponents. It makes you look better then you are and many people overrate fighters based on these performances when they should be taking them with a grain of salt.

Mousasi hasn't fought anyone near Gustaffson's level in his whole career... I don't know that I would consider him as ever beating a top 10 LHW opponent and Gustaffson is imo top 5. Lawal with a horrible gas tank was able to easily out wrestle him. A washed up Jardine gave him slight issues. He has also looked mediocre in parts against OSP and Kyle who are b level fighters(hell Kyle isn't even a b level fighter). You can believe me now or wait till after the fight, either way it doesn't matter. Mousasi is overrated by many and Gus is going to prove it next week when he beats him in every aspect of the fight. Honestly I thought Mousasi's being overrated would have ended due to his performances in SF but it seems to have lingered for some reason...

Edit: To put some "money" where my mouth is I will go all in on Gustaffson as well. Minus a lucky punch I don't see Mousasi winning.
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Good one

Actually you could have used a gosling as the "-son" in Gustafson literaly was a Swedish indicator for "Gustaf's son" or "son of Gustaf"
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Did Mousasi really get hit by Kyle? I remember him ducking and dodging every single punch. I may be wrong though.
Not really at all. He landed nothing that flinched Moose, just a few stray kicks that barely landed.


The fight was a lot like Chael vs. Stann I thought. Mousasi just barged in, hunted Kyle down, and ended it.

And to say that Mike Kyle is some can is a mistake. I don't know if you know Bigfoot Silva, the current #1 contender for the Heavyweight belt in the UFC. Mike Kyle hit him a record of 110 times in ONE ROUND in their fight and was close to steamrolling him like Cain did.

And Mousasi finished UFC heavyweight Mark Hunt in about a minute.


I love Gus, and he has his hands full here.

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Mousasi is so dangerous .......this is such a tough fight to call. Great job by the UFC putting it together.

On an aside, I find Mousasi's casual/apathetic body language hilarious. It almost appears that his mind is miles away when he is in a fight.
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Not really at all. He landed nothing that flinched Moose, just a few stray kicks that barely landed.


The fight was a lot like Chael vs. Stann I thought. Mousasi just barged in, hunted Kyle down, and ended it.

And to say that Mike Kyle is some can is a mistake. I don't know if you know Bigfoot Silva, the current #1 contender for the Heavyweight belt in the UFC. Mike Kyle hit him a record of 110 times in ONE ROUND in their fight and was close to steamrolling him like Cain did.

And Mousasi finished UFC heavyweight Mark Hunt in about a minute.


I love Gus, and he has his hands full here.
Mike Kyle is dangerous but awful... He caught and almost finished Silva because of his speed advantage but once Silva recovered it didn't last long. Any fighter with fast powerful hands can do that to Silva, we have seen multiple guys do it already.

Kyle's takedown and sub defense are bad and his striking accuracy and defense are also lacking. Sad thing is Mousasi didn't even look that good striking with him, Kyle probably would have faded in the 2nd and Mousasi would have started to pick him apart but that wasn't needed since Kyle is such a fish on the ground.

The Mousasi vs Hunt fight was such a joke, Hunt had beyond horrible sub defense at that time. Mousasi just bum rushed him knocked him off balance and then it was over. Hunt's wrestling and sub defense have improved but if he ever fights a decent submission artist again he most likely still loses, lucky for him there aren't many of them kicking around or very active right now.

It easy easy to use the names of Silva and Hunt to try and talk yourself into believing Mousasi is a top notch fighter but don't fall for it. Gus is not losing this fight.
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Mike Kyle is dangerous but awful... He caught and almost finished Silva because of his speed advantage but once Silva recovered it didn't last long. Any fighter with fast powerful hands can do that to Silva, we have seen multiple guys do it already.

Kyle's takedown and sub defense are bad and his striking accuracy and defense are also lacking. Sad thing is Mousasi didn't even look that good striking with him, Kyle probably would have faded in the 2nd and Mousasi would have started to pick him apart but that wasn't needed since Kyle is such a fish on the ground.

The Mousasi vs Hunt fight was such a joke, Hunt had beyond horrible sub defense at that time. Mousasi just bum rushed him knocked him off balance and then it was over. Hunt's wrestling and sub defense have improved but if he ever fights a decent submission artist again he most likely still loses, lucky for him there aren't many of them kicking around or very active right now.

It easy easy to use the names of Silva and Hunt to try and talk yourself into believing Mousasi is a top notch fighter but don't fall for it. Gus is not losing this fight.
Not sure how you can think Mousasi is another overrated non-UFC fighter. GSP thinks he's an absolute stud. I don't think we have more insight than him.


The guy has trained part time, mostly messing around and training zero wrestling (self admitted) until before the OSP fight. The guy didn't even learn wrist control until last year and he defeated guys like Jacare, Lombard, and Hunt. He retired Musashi and knocked down Kyotaro, the current K1 HW champ who couldn't even be dropped by Schilt. He dominated OSP in wrestling after taking his first few wrestling lessons.

He's a special fighter. Here's a list of things he's done just off his back:
Triangled a BJJ blackbelt
Put Fedor in an omoplata
Took down a judo black belt in Sokoudjou
Won the Dream MW Tournament (triangle on manhoef, upkick on Jacare)

He's had one loss in 2006. He got wrestled by a strong wrestler, and he came in looking sleepy. It was his worst performance. But he still landed 125 shots to the head, with a staggering accuracy of 86%. 86% accuracy in a 25 minute fight.

But it was a way better performance than Gus vs. Davis.

There's just no reason to hate on Moose. He's young, respectable, fun as hell and does all sorts of things. Watch his K1 fights; especially the Musashi fight where Musashi talked so much trash about MMA strikers before hand. Watch the Dream MW tournament. Watch how funny Mousasi vs. Hunt and Goodridge are. You can love Gus and still learn to be a Mousasi fan.

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Diaz was considered to be the best WW and MW fighter by many. They thought he would destroy GSP and possibly even beat Silva... Imo he isn't and never was a top 5 WW fighter...
This is the part where you are lying.

Not a soul on here said he would beat Anderson nor destroy GSP.
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not sold on mousasi yet but i have been very unimpressed by gustafsson so im rooting for gegard... this is a good matchup and i really dont care who wins so all i want to see is a good fight.

Head-butting fists and KOing the air is not effective striking.
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Hahaha. Nice save.
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