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Old 03-26-2013, 11:58 PM   #21 (permalink)
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OMG, this is great news! We get to watch GSP dominate and not finish Diaz for another 5 rounds.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:21 AM   #22 (permalink)

 
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Diaz's lawyer doesn't even seem to understand that the guy in the video was a UFC employee and not one of the AC guys.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:21 AM   #23 (permalink)
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At least this will clear up the issue and make Canadian rules for weight-ins clear.

In before GSP nuthuggers stating "Who cares about .9lbs ?!"

This I agree with. At least their rules won't be unknown to fighters before their weigh in. Even Condit said he was never aware of this when he fought GSP there. So at the very least it seems odd that they don't let this be clear. Diaz was told literally an hour before weigh ins....

People will say "oh butthurt Diaz, he is making excuses". Those people are idiots. The guy was suspended for 9 months for traces of cannabis metabolites. His brother had to go back and shed .6 lbs for his title shot. If he genuinely feels slighted over the lack of clarification or blatant change of rules, he is more than entitled to pursue the answers.

If Sonnen were to say he is the MW champ after losing to Anderson it is funny. If Diaz's camp says GSP needs to fight for the vacant belt...they can't be kidding or being ridiculous...they must be butthurt whiners.

Either way not Condit nor Diaz knew of these unique rules which are different than most anywhere else they hold fights. At the very least I am glad that the rules are put out in the limelight, so at least fighters know them in the future.
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Old 03-27-2013, 01:50 AM   #24 (permalink)
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at whoever said something about Boxing after my first post,

I do know the UFC use to go by Boxing Commission guidelines. That was the reason for Greasegate back in the day. In Boxing, you're allowed to rub Vaseline on your back because those ropes will rub you raw. UFC loosely followed those guidelines, hence GSP having Vaseline on his back. Greasegate was the catalyst for Unified MMA Guidelines, which does not say anything about a champ vacating his belt if he misses weight. Even when MMA in general loosely followed Boxing rules, Filho never lost his title when he came in overweight for his defeat to Chael Sonnen. I've never found anything saying the champ loses if he misses weight. Diaz is stupid for thinking he gets special treatment because..., well he's "special."

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Old 03-27-2013, 01:53 AM   #25 (permalink)
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At least this will clear up the issue and make Canadian rules for weight-ins clear.

In before GSP nuthuggers stating "Who cares about .9lbs ?!"
Just because some dude said that they are lenient towards 0.9 pounds does that mean that GSP actually came in at 170.9 pounds. Diaz (and his fans) is trying to put one and two together, but their has been no reason to doubt that GSP actually came in 0.9 pounds over. and lol at Canadian rules... way to generalize.

Diaz has to prove that GSP came in 0.1- pounds over, if he cant, then is complaints are pointless.
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I'm confused, I thought you were given a .5 allowance, is .4 really that big of a deal???? So does that mean GSP came in at 171.4 since he was allowed to go to 170.9 or what? Cuz I don't see the big deal ya know, but to each his own.
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Just because some dude said that they are lenient towards 0.9 pounds does that mean that GSP actually came in at 170.9 pounds. Diaz (and his fans) is trying to put one and two together, but their has been no reason to doubt that GSP actually came in 0.9 pounds over. and lol at Canadian rules... way to generalize.

Diaz has to prove that GSP came in 0.1- pounds over, if he cant, then is complaints are pointless.
Do we know what weight he even came in at? No.

Do other proficient fighters/managers know the Canadian weigh-in guidelines? Any links?

What I'm saying is that weigh-in guidelines need to be CLEAR instead of having "dudes" argue that decimals are not counted based on hearsay.
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Do we know what weight he even came in at? No.

Do other proficient fighters/managers know the Canadian weigh-in guidelines? Any links?

What I'm saying is that weigh-in guidelines need to be CLEAR instead of having "dudes" argue that decimals are not counted based on hearsay.
He came in at officially 170, say that he was decimal points over, he could easily lose the shorts and be at 170 on the dot. I cant assume that GSP weighed in any different just because someone else says you can. If you assume that they are lying on GSP's behalf, then you could consider other fighters on the Card fighting over their limits by decimal points as well, and they lied about that too. Instead of assuming and blaming everyone, im on the belief that its currently an isolated case. Diaz came in at 169, if he came in at 170, no one would care or they would have to also assume they maybe, just maybe, he could also be decimal points over. I just think its pointless calling cheat (not you) over decimal points of pounds, and that was the difference in GSP handling Diaz. Just dont understand that if someone says one thing, its ok to target people. Like how everyone assumed Belfort failed that Brazil drug test when it wasent him, and even now, still assume some wrong doing on Vitor or cover up.

Their is no Canadian weigh in guidelines, I dunno why US Fans are instantly thinking that Brazil and Canada are corrupt places to be at. Each Province has their own Athletic Commissions, and looking from the outside, they work together with the UFC based on their rules and guidelines. Their is no "Canadian conspiracy" if their is an issue, its solely on the Quebec Athletic Commission and/or UFC. Side Note: I know people complain that GSP fought in Canada often, but why is this an issue, and why does no one care if Cain or Bendo fought in the USA or Bisping fighting in the UK? And YES they Drug Test in Canada, stop thinking they dont.

I agree that the rules have to be clear for all parties involved before a fight. If it has to be 170lbs on the dot, its got to be 170lbs on the dot. Diaz looks after his own weight, they have scales in the back for you to check if you are on weight. Shouldnt matter if a third party telling you that you made weight 1 hour before. Thing is, outside of the USA, other countries use the Metric System and when you are converting, those decimal points can be tricky. Also if you are decimal points over, dont you just round that off to the nearest whole number anyway? How about if GSP actually came in at .4 even if (allegedly) the limit is .9? Im not on that side of the fence so im not claiming anything about them, but I used to be a fighter to pay for college so I kind of know how these things work. But again this isint like GSP actually weighing 175lbs and they lied and said 170, that would be serious. But again I have to exercise caution to assume that GSP did anything wrong. He could have come in like they said, at 170. Its up to other people to challenge and back up their accusations in that GSP did not come in at 170lbs. Just because the cake is offered on the table doesent mean everyone is taking a slice, Diaz is just assuming GSP mustve took one. It isint any more currently credible than the packed hand wraps, steroid, mind reading accusations against GSP brought up by Diaz's Camp. Nick has to realize that throwing away money like this to random people (and weed) is why he becomes poor.
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Are you sure about that?

I was under the impression MMA followed the same rules as boxing: If the belt holder misses weight he has to vacate the belt. If the challenger makes weight, he can then choose whether to go ahead with the fight. If he wins, then he gets the belt.

This is how it should work of course
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Diaz will whine about literally anything. The fact that he got totally and utterly dominated by a far superior fighter seems to have gone a miss with him and he is looking for every excuse he can possibly find as to why he lost.

You lost because you couldnt handle GSP's 'riddum' Nick, get over it.
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