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Old 03-27-2013, 10:05 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Why wouldn't GSP come at 170.9 or whatever if he knew in advance that he could?
The thing is, we don't know that. We don't know that GSP knew about the rules. Sure, I suspect he *did* know about it. At east, he probably knew about it longer then Diaz did. But its all speculative.

I'm inclined to believe GSP was slightly overweight. I'm also inclined to believe that was not in the best interests of the UFC or Quebec, and thus measures we're taken to protect those interests. But I also believe in dragons and faeries... for real.

Evidence is seriously lacking.

One thing I dont understand, is that if they dont count the decimal place in Quebec, why even bring it up? Both of them would have come in at a recorded 170. Why even tell Nick about it? If its the standard procedure for making weight in Quebec then that information is public knowledge. There should be plenty of previous fight examples. So, why feel the need to inform Nick just before the weigh-ins. Kind of points to GSP weighing over 170.9 and needing the extra hour.

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Old 03-27-2013, 10:15 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Just because some dude said that they are lenient towards 0.9 pounds does that mean that GSP actually came in at 170.9 pounds. Diaz (and his fans) is trying to put one and two together, but their has been no reason to doubt that GSP actually came in 0.9 pounds over. and lol at Canadian rules... way to generalize.

Diaz has to prove that GSP came in 0.1- pounds over, if he cant, then is complaints are pointless.
This post shows that you totally miss the whole point of the discussion.

You, like other mouth breathers here love to turn it into a Diaz/GSP thing.

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Diaz will whine about literally anything. The fact that he got totally and utterly dominated by a far superior fighter seems to have gone a miss with him and he is looking for every excuse he can possibly find as to why he lost.

You lost because you couldnt handle GSP's 'riddum' Nick, get over it.
This goof as well. So when a guy gets suspended for 9 months for TRACES of metabolites he isn't allowed to pursue the answers to .9 of a lb at an official weigh in? He is not allowed to have a clarification?

Get out of here. You bring nothing to the thread.
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Old 03-27-2013, 11:19 AM   #43 (permalink)
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remember when Diaz seemed cool?
Not really! He always came off as a whiny douchebag whenever things didn't go his way. This is no exception. I don't care how good of a fighter Nick is. I just want him to leave so we don't have to listen to him anymore. It gets tired.
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Old 03-27-2013, 11:21 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Why wouldn't GSP come at 170.9 or whatever if he knew in advance that he could?
Because it's GSP. The man's done enough by this point to demonstrate to people that he's the consummate professional. If we were talking about Anthony Johnson, I might be inclined to agree with you. But for now, and until we have some concrete evidence that GSP actually weighed heavy, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:00 PM   #45 (permalink)
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It doesn't matter if GSP weighed in at 170.0 or 170.9, nobody cares for that. The fact that the commission relaxed the rules is the issue here.
Why is that an issue? Commissions are the bodies that set the rules for their jurisdictions. They can make the rules as they see fit, and the fight producers that want to put on fights in those jurisdictions can either abide by those rules, make a request for the commission to apply exceptions to those rules (which the commission can accept or refuse,) or decide not to hold the fights in that jurisdiction.

Commissions can have different rules ... and weight classes vary all over the world http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed_m...weight_classes

The rules weren't 'relaxed', they were what they have been for a while now .. check out a few weigh in videos for fights held in Montreal, and you will see that they haven't mentioned a non 'right on the lbs mark" weight for a while now .... the rules are different than some other jurisdictions, but that's nothing new. Why is it 'an issue' just because the rules are not the same as "Americans think they should be"?

Here for example is a condensed 6 minute video of the weigh ins for UFC 113, held in Montreal (UFC 158, 154, and 166 have been held in Montreal since then) and unless not a single fighter was a single 0.1 lbs over or under an rounded number, then obviously Montreal has had this rule in place for a while now. (And it certainly wasn't to give GSP any advantage as he wasn't even on the card for this event.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmBDjkGuHfc


I find it hard to believe that in at least 4 events, with about 100 fighters being weighed in, that not a single one of them looked down to see that their weight was being rounded off and bothered to check it out... how is that possible?

If Diaz went to Japan to challenge for a WW championship weighing 170lbs, and suddenly found that he was no longer a WW, but actually 2 lbs overweight for the MW class, and was now fighting the LHW Champ who weighted the maximum for LHW at 183 lbs, would he be complaining that the champ should have to vacate his belt just because Diaz didn't know the rules in the jurisdiction he was fighting?
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This post shows that you totally miss the whole point of the discussion.
The title of the thread is " Diaz Cites Quebec Commission Irregularities, GSP Should Fight at 170 or Vacate Belt Reply to Thread".

How is talking about whether GSP was or was actually in violation of being over 170 lbs not "on point"?

Seems to me it is you, once again, that is missing the point.
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It doesn't matter if GSP weighed in at 170.0 or 170.9, nobody cares for that. The fact that the commission relaxed the rules is the issue here.
The commission relaxing the rules is an issue. But..., issue everybody on here is trying to make is that they relaxed for GSP. Simple fact of the matter is that they relaxed the rules for the benefit of Diaz, nobody else.
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:51 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Did I miss the part where anyone actually has prove that GSP weighed 170.9lbs? They UFC VP said that they could be up to 170.9lbs as that is the last .10lb before 171lbs.... where does that actually say GSP was anything but 170lbs?
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Old 03-27-2013, 05:45 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Did I miss the part where anyone actually has prove that GSP weighed 170.9lbs? They UFC VP said that they could be up to 170.9lbs as that is the last .10lb before 171lbs.... where does that actually say GSP was anything but 170lbs?
It doesent, but because it was in Montreal people are automatically linking it to GSP and saying he is guilty and that because you could theoretically weigh in at 170.9 lbs GSP mustve been closer to .9 than .0, If they fought in Las Vegas, would people start questioning GSP, Diaz or any other championship fight wondering if fighters are coming in at +0.4 than at .0? IF they relaxed a rule, it was for BOTH fighters, including Diaz.

People assuming stuff, thinking its true and its getting out of hand. Like I said if Diaz also was officially recorded at 170lbs as well, no one would give a damn because you can also imply that Diaz could also be in the decimal ranges, but since he came in at 1 pound less officially by the same people he is accusing, he gets off free, and feels free to accuse GSP of any wrong doing. Diaz found a loophole to complain because he assumes that GSP found a loophole to weigh as much as 0.9lbs over and did so. He is going to try to hang this over the heads of UFC/QAC/GSP to try to get them to make a rematch, because now everyone realizes its his only way to get one again, he has been exposed in that he wont be able to fight his way back up instead. Nick is good at fighting against the system in getting them annoyed so much, that they relent and just give him what he wants, instead of Nick earning it. GSP is the kid buying candy with his allowance, Diaz just whines until his Mom gives in and buys him it. Nick is just hoping that all this weigh in shenanigans annoys the UFC off so much, that they relent and give him the rematch with GSP, it still wont mean that they think that Diaz was right all along.

Yes it looks really petty, but Diaz does have every right to file a complaint if he wishes too, though its unlikely he wont get anything out of it. Maybe he should be paying his taxes instead of paying for frivolous attempts at court cases (this and his weed suspension), better use of whatever money he claims he has left.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:25 PM   #50 (permalink)
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I wish Nick would just go away. Sure he generates press but he generates a lot of bad press. The guy had no business getting the title shot, didn't do anything in the fight to suggest that he even had a chance of winning and now is whining about absolutely everything he possibly can while he thinks he's somewhat relevant.

I know the topic is about the QAC but I'm so tired of the whining coming from "The Boy Who Cried Wolf - Nick Diaz" that I just don't care.

WAIT

This just in .... Nick Diaz is thinking of filing a complaint because they served him Evian bottled water in the dressing room instead of the Stockton tap water that he is used to drinking.

Hmm, that one seems too far fetched.

This just in .... Nick Diaz is thinking of filing a complaint because GSP hired a Muay Thai coach coming into this fight and Nick did not.

No?

This just in .... Nick Diaz is thinking of filing a complaint because the lights in the Bell Centre were too bright and he had a hard time seeing. Nick suggests that the Quebec Athletic Commission took his eye exam results and analyzed them to find the exact brightness that they would have to create to give GSP a 0.0053% better chance of winning the fight. They then changed out just enough bulbs in the UFC's equipment to make the difference without anyone knowing, or anyone having any proof of them actually doing it.
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