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Old 03-27-2013, 03:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
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It wasn't a rant. It was an explanation as to why Westerners and Asians perceive the Swastika and the Rising Sun flag differently.



No, Chan Sung Jung treated it like St. Pierre wore that symbol because of lacking knowledge, hence he explained what it means to a majority of Asians.

And yes, the Swastika is also sometimes used by accident/lacking knowledge, even with association to the Nazi context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_Cafe or plain dumbness:

without the Nazi context it's used in big parts of the world as a religious symbol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika

And that's what I tried to explain. The Swastika and the Rising Sun flag are perceived differently in different parts of the world depending on their historical connection of those parts of the world to the respective symbols.
I'm aware of the Swastika's origin...

The point I was trying to make with you is that their not the same at all. People all around the world know the Swastika is offensive and since WW2 has been associated with the genocide of millions of Jewish people. Do you really think the rising sun is common knowledge in places other than Asian countries? If so I'll just shut up now. I think it was a horrible comparison.
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I'm aware of the Swastika's origin...

The point I was trying to make with you is that their not the same at all. People all around the world know the Swastika is offensive and since WW2 has been associated with the genocide of millions of Jewish people. Do you really think the rising sun is common knowledge in places other than Asian countries? If so I'll just shut up now. I think it was a horrible comparison.
No, the Swastika is NOT necessarily perceived as offensive all over the world. It's only perceived that offensive in the WESTERN world (Europe & North America) and former Soviet Union. In Asia and Africa, only well educated people know its offensive nature in the Nazi-context. Apart from that, it's not perceived offensive at all in Asia as it is still a commonly used symbol in Buddhism and Hinduism.

So in fact, probably more people on the world feel the Rising Sun flag offensive (China, Korea, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia etc. ~ 2 Billion) than the Swastika (Europe, North America & Australia, former Soviet states ~ 1,5 Billion). That makes it a valid comparison, even if in detail there are differences in the type of war crimes.
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No, the Swastika is NOT necessarily perceived as offensive all over the world. It's only perceived that offensive in the WESTERN world (Europe & North America) and former Soviet Union. In Asia and Africa, only well educated people know its offensive nature in the Nazi-context. Apart from that, it's not perceived offensive at all in Asia as it is still a commonly used symbol in Buddhism and Hinduism.

So in fact, probably more people on the world feel the Rising Sun flag offensive (China, Korea, Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia etc. ~ 2 Billion) than the Swastika (Europe, North America & Australia, former Soviet states ~ 1,5 Billion). That makes it a valid comparison, even if in detail there are differences in the type of war crimes.
Did anyone know that the peace sign was derived by the swastika?
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Funny really how some posters believe that the swastika signifies white supremacy vice the the antisematic sentiment.

I agree though that this entire thread belongs in the previous
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