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post #101 of 201 (permalink) Old 04-08-2013, 04:46 PM
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I don't care much one way or another. And I am no doctor.

But you can't change your height or the length of your limbs by the process. Men are born with a much better chance to be taller with longer reach.

Joe Rogan also said it is proven that men have around a 10% better reaction time, basically due to evolution. Would have to do more research on that, but not sure why he would say it, if he himself didn't research it.

Either way, if commissions or others are going to say weed is a performance enhancer. Or if people get suspended for having cold medicine in their system. Then I don't see how these things can be ignored.

I don't have all the facts on that tennis player from the 70s. But the person basically sucked on the men's tour. And then was pretty good on the women's tour. That right there seems proof enough that former men have an advantage when it comes to competing with women no matter what hormone therapy they go through. 5 years being a woman doesn't seem like it can eliminate the 30 years of being a man.

You can't tell me if Aldo did this and 5 years later competed with women...that he would not have a massive advantage. I guess we don't know for sure. But my instincts say he defiantly would be the 145lb woman's champ with quite ease.


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I'm kind of sick of hearing about this in all honesty. Lost in the huge debate is the same thing lost in the debate over the guy who did gay porn. Are they even any good? Fallon needs to kill this media attention and just talk about her fighting, it cheapens her/his career. If you're a good enough fighter people will take notice.

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I don't care much one way or another. And I am no doctor.

But you can't change your height or the length of your limbs by the process. Men are born with a much better chance to be taller with longer reach.

Joe Rogan also said it is proven that men have around a 10% better reaction time, basically due to evolution. Would have to do more research on that, but not sure why he would say it, if he himself didn't research it.

Either way, if commissions or others are going to say weed is a performance enhancer. Or if people get suspended for having cold medicine in their system. Then I don't see how these things can be ignored.

I don't have all the facts on that tennis player from the 70s. But the person basically sucked on the men's tour. And then was pretty good on the women's tour. That right there seems proof enough that former men have an advantage when it comes to competing with women no matter what hormone therapy they go through. 5 years being a woman doesn't seem like it can eliminate the 30 years of being a man.

You can't tell me if Aldo did this and 5 years later competed with women...that he would not have a massive advantage. I guess we don't know for sure. But my instincts say he defiantly would be the 145lb woman's champ with quite ease.
Actually he wouldn't.

He'd probably be in jail for murder, one Aldo leg kick and those broads would be done for.


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It really doesn't matter what all of you think, Matt speaks the truth. Just think about it from his perspective. I'm really not sure why so many of you are taking Fallon's side. Matt hit the nail on the head.



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I'm kind of sick of hearing about this in all honesty. Lost in the huge debate is the same thing lost in the debate over the guy who did gay porn. Are they even any good? Fallon needs to kill this media attention and just talk about her fighting, it cheapens her/his career. If you're a good enough fighter people will take notice.

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Matt did not choose the best way to go about making his point, but the overall point that he makes is indeed a salient one. I'm certainly not going to stop supporting him, but he let his mouth get carried away with him and used some poorly chosen and unnecessary terminology. Symptomatic of his character, he is an excitable kind of guy, very warm and friendly, but speaks in what seems like a conscious stream of thought and often says things that I'm sure he himself probably realizes seconds after that he should not have, and maybe even did not really mean. The end result is that he has said what many others are probably thinking to a degree, but would never verbalise.

Either way, it now appears that he has been suspended..........

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Matt did not choose the best way to go about making his point, but the overall point that he makes is indeed a salient one. I'm certainly not going to stop supporting him, but he let his mouth get carried away with him and used some poorly chosen and unnecessary terminology. Symptomatic of his character, he is an excitable kind of guy, very warm and friendly, but speaks in what seems like a conscious stream of thought and often says things that I'm sure he himself probably realizes seconds after that he should not have, and maybe even did not really mean. The end result is that he has said what many others are probably thinking to a degree, but would never verbalise.

Either way, it now appears that he has been suspended..........

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/4/8/...ox-transphobia
... isn't hughes in charge of the ufc's conduct policy now? really wouldn't have guessed he'd have a problem with mitrione's comments...

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I think this may have superseded Hughes and come from somewhere above, if its true.

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I've kept my mouth shut about this situation because I honestly know next to nothing about what is involved with becoming a transgendered individual. I'm not going to judge someone by the gender they identify with but rather the character that they bind themselves to. If Fallon wants to be a woman, go for it. I'm not going to try and stop you or call you a freak but I'm also not going to pretend to sympathize with you or understand your point of view.
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