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Old 04-05-2013, 03:51 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I think he might hate Aoki more than you hate Sonnen lol. At least you think Sonnen could beat a top 10 :P

Aoki has improved a fair amount since last fighting in the States. He would do well at FW, beat almost all of the top ten other than a Mendes or Edgar most likely. His striking is still nothing great, but he could get guys down. His takedowns have improved a lot, and he would be bigger at fw
LOL, I think Sonnen is probably 4-5 best MW in the World. I just don't think he is a top 20 LHW.

I think Aoki dropping down would be similar to Maia when he dropped down. Maybe not quite the same, but a similar boost. It's hard to submit a powerful wrestler, but you close the strength gap a bit and it becomes a little easier.
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LOL, I think Sonnen is probably 4-5 best MW in the World. I just don't think he is a top 20 LHW.

I think Aoki dropping down would be similar to Maia when he dropped down. Maybe not quite the same, but a similar boost. It's hard to submit a powerful wrestler, but you close the strength gap a bit and it becomes a little easier.
Who is better than Sonnen at MW besides Grease n Grab and Weidman?


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I laugh when I picture Aldo vs. Aoki. I almost think the commission wouldn't allow it. Haha.
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Grease n Grab? I don't understand the reference? I guess you are talking about Anderson? But I don't get the reference if you are. But IMO you have 1.Spider 2.Weidman 3.Vitor 4.Jacare. Obviously those are debatable but IMO they would all beat Sonnen and IMO they would do it convincingly. I won't call you crazy if you pick Sonnen over Vitor, most here in the Sonnen thread acknowledge that Jacare is just a nightmare matchup for Sonnen. But if you are just looking at rankings and not just head to head matchups and you want to put Chael at #3, I wouldn't call you crazy. I don't expect you to agree about Vitor and I think it's probably fairly split on who people think would win. Just how I see it though.
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Grease n Grab? I don't understand the reference? I guess you are talking about Anderson? But I don't get the reference if you are. But IMO you have 1.Spider 2.Weidman 3.Vitor 4.Jacare. Obviously those are debatable but IMO they would all beat Sonnen and IMO they would do it convincingly. I won't call you crazy if you pick Sonnen over Vitor, most here in the Sonnen thread acknowledge that Jacare is just a nightmare matchup for Sonnen. But if you are just looking at rankings and not just head to head matchups and you want to put Chael at #3, I wouldn't call you crazy. I don't expect you to agree about Vitor and I think it's probably fairly split on who people think would win. Just how I see it though.
Spider is only one who is better. I think Sonnen could out wrestle Weidman but that is not for this thread

Aoki is a tricky guy, and if he keeps improving his wrestling and takedowns he will give troubles to a lot of the guys at 145. That being said, he will never be on the level he would need to be wrestling wise to give Aldo too many troubles, he could throw a random flying sub and catch Aldo. But most likely Aldo would send Aoki to the hospital to fix his broken face. And I'm a HUGE Aoki fan, but my bias won't get in the way lol
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haha, no... not anyone with decent wrestling and submission defence.
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I enjoy seeing Aoki getting knocked out(and then crying) more than anything in MMA. So hopefully he comes to the UFC.
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I enjoy seeing Aoki getting knocked out(and then crying) more than anything in MMA. So hopefully he comes to the UFC.
What was kind of crazy about that 1st gif is Aoki ran away for an whole round before that because it was K-1 rules, only to get knocked out early on in the MMA round lol
I like Aoki, but that was an awful performance by him. I like Aoki but I'm a much, much bigger fan of Crusher who is drastically underrated at FW.
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What was kind of crazy about that 1st gif is Aoki ran away for an whole round before that because it was K-1 rules, only to get knocked out early on in the MMA round lol
I like Aoki, but that was an awful performance by him. I like Aoki but I'm a much, much bigger fan of Crusher who is drastically underrated at FW.
He didn't just run he cheated nonstop and I laughed for about 2 minutes straight after Jienotsu KOed him. Aoki getting his faced smashed in by a crossplayer is one of the greatest moments in the history of MMA.
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