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Fallon doesn't have a vagina, nor ovaries, etc. I'm sorry, but that's 100% fact.

Having one's penis removed isn't the same as installing a vagina.
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Fallon doesn't have a vagina, nor ovaries, etc. I'm sorry, but that's 100% fact.

Having one's penis removed isn't the same as installing a vagina.
Part of SRS can include building a vagina, please educate yourself. By your own definition here you are saying that in order to be female, one has to have the plumbing, that's a foolish statement.

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His words were way out of line, sorry. It wasn't the first part really...

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she's not a he. He's a he," he said. "He's chromosomally a man. He had a gender change, not a sex change. He's still a man. He was a man for 31 years. Thirty-one years. That's a couple years younger than I am. He's a man. Six years of taking performance de-hancing drugs, you think is going to change all that? That's ridiculous.
Lots of people have said things like this, and its a defensible position. It was the rest:

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"That is a lying, sick, sociopathic, disgusting freak," he continued. "And I mean that. Because you lied on your license to beat up women. That's disgusting. You should be embarrassed yourself. And the fact that Florida licensed him because California licensed him or whoever the hell did it, it's an embarrassment to us as fighters, as a sport, and we all should protest that. The woman that's fighting him, props to you. I hope you beat his ass, and I hope he gets blackballed and never fights again, because that's disgusting and I'm appalled by that."

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Part of SRS can include building a vagina, please educate yourself. By your own definition here you are saying that in order to be female, one has to have the plumbing, that's a foolish statement.

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You said sex refers to organs, and suggested that Fallon is female. How do you know he's undergone this groundbreaking vaginal construction process? For all we know it's a disaster area down there. You're suggesting that the mere act of having one's penis removed makes him a woman. And I'm sure it's not quite that simple.

This is a sensitive issue for you. I get that. But you can't just go around telling everyone to educate themselves just because they disagree with you. Yes, a big part of being female is having a vagina, ovaries, and as you put it, the 'plumbing'. This doesn't mean that women with defective reproductive organs aren't female, because they still have them (regardless of whether they function). Fox - by design - does not... if you're going to say that organs define sex, then you have to acknowledge the natural, female organs that Fox is missing and was not born with. This isn't as neat and tidy a situation as you make it seem.

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Curious to the situation.

Can Fallon give birth? Or can she even produce an ova?
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Sex refers to the sexual organs a person has. In this regard, Fallon is a she. Gender refers to what a person feels like they are. In this regard, Fallon is a she.

Had they not suspended Mitrione, they would just be telling the next person that it's okay to do this kind of thing. Fallon did nothing to Meathead, however he all out attacked her. Do people not have a universal right to exist without being unjustly ridiculed?

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He's not a she just because he got his dick cut off and got a makeshift vagina. It doesn't work like that. It's a fake and doesn't work like a vagina should, nor does his body work like a woman's should.

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Can Fallon give birth? Or can she even produce an ova?
neither.

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UFC should just fine Meathead and donate the fine to the LGBT community foundation or whatever it may be called.

It may have been wrong to call her/him a freak but I agree with what he said.

Fallon Fox should be locked up for being a liar. This isn't a game of monopoly fighters are playing. Its real and it can have long term implications on your health. Fallon Fox knew exactly what he was doing when he lied on his registration.

If I had a daughter old enough to compete in MMA and I found out the fighter that beat her was a man, I'd take a baseball bat to the bastard.

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UFC should just fine Meathead and donate the fine to the LGBT community foundation or whatever it may be called.

It may have been wrong to call her/him a freak but I agree with what he said.

Fallon Fox should be locked up for being a liar. This isn't a game of monopoly fighters are playing. Its real and it can have long term implications on your health. Fallon Fox knew exactly what he was doing when he lied on his registration.

If I had a daughter old enough to compete in MMA and I found out the fighter that beat her was a man, I'd take a baseball bat to the bastard.
He shouldn't have had any action taken against him.

The LGBT community needs to get over it and grow a set. So he called you a name, stop bitching.


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neither.
I have no horse in this race.

But from any clear definition of female that I can find...Fallon cannot be considered a female.
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