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Old 04-08-2013, 07:21 PM   #21 (permalink)
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He's not a she just because he got his dick cut off and got a makeshift vagina. It doesn't work like that. It's a fake and doesn't work like a vagina should, nor does his body work like a woman's should.
It's a matter of chemical makeup of the body. Body parts are one little part of the situation. If the chemical makeup of a person says they're female, then that's what they are.

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Old 04-08-2013, 07:22 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Frankly, I'm not against men living as women and women living as men. I've always looked at things with a 'live and let live' mindset. This entire sex-change issue has been more about someone born a man fighting women for a living, and whether that's right or wrong. But this is a completely different matter. Meathead does deserve to be 'punished' for his words, because they were harsh and unnecessary... but again, I think a simple fine would have sufficed and appeased the whistle blowers.

Suspending him because he used the term 'freak' when people higher up in the organization have publicly uttered far worse is a bit drastic.
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UFC should just fine Meathead and donate the fine to the LGBT community foundation or whatever it may be called.

It may have been wrong to call her/him a freak but I agree with what he said.

Fallon Fox should be locked up for being a liar. This isn't a game of monopoly fighters are playing. Its real and it can have long term implications on your health. Fallon Fox knew exactly what he was doing when he lied on his registration.

If I had a daughter old enough to compete in MMA and I found out the fighter that beat her was a man, I'd take a baseball bat to the bastard.
Other than the little misunderstanding that California had not in fact licensed her yet, which had nothing to do with her sex or gender, how did she lie?

Also, LL it isn't the LGBT community that did this, they aren't whining. The UFC did it on their own.

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I'm not saying the comments Meathead made were justified, but you have to look at it from other peoples perspective too. Some see it as mutilation, changing your sexual orientation from how you were born is offensive to certain people. It's no different from people clashing over religious beliefs, and even going to war over it, it's human nature to attack what you don't believe in.

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Other than the little misunderstanding that California had not in fact licensed her yet, which had nothing to do with her sex or gender, how did she lie?

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She fought women, while the women thought she was a women. That's lying, and dangerous.
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Other than the little misunderstanding that California had not in fact licensed her yet, which had nothing to do with her sex or gender, how did she lie?

Also, LL it isn't the LGBT community that did this, they aren't whining. The UFC did it on their own.

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I never said anything about the LGBT.

Well I have to admit, I'm only taking Meatheads word for it.

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Because you lied on your license to beat up women. That's disgusting. You should be embarrassed yourself. And the fact that Florida licensed him because California licensed him or whoever the hell did it, it's an embarrassment to us as fighters, as a sport, and we all should protest that.
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Well I have to admit, I'm only taking Meatheads word for it
Meathead was mistaken, from a legal standpoint she is female, so any information on any legal documents needs to reflect her legal status. No lies.

I wasn't referring to you saying something about the LGBTQ community, I was talking to LL in that part.

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Meathead was mistaken, from a legal standpoint she is female, so any information on any legal documents needs to reflect her legal status. No lies.

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If thats the case then the law needs to change. I've nothing against people who want to live life they way they choose, I appreciate it takes courage to do so.

What Fox did was wrong, legal or otherwise.
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I'm sick of this PC sensitive bullshit. If you need to use mutilation and drugs to change your body to feel good about yourself, that's none of my business. And it's none of my business what that by itself says about your mental health. But that doesn't give you the right to compete in a sport with obvious advantages. Being this driven to first become a woman and then fight women is a perfect example of the dictionary definition of freak.
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If Matt finds that type of freak disgusting, he isn't the only one.
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If thats the case then the law needs to change. I've nothing against people who want to live life they way they choose, I appreciate it takes courage to do so.

What Fox did was wrong, legal or otherwise.
It was right in the eyes of the law, so I'm assuming you're talking from a moral standpoint which is incredibly subjective.
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It was right in the eyes of the law, so I'm assuming you're talking from a moral standpoint which is incredibly subjective.
Well first of all I very much doubt lawmakers had anticipated that a man who had a sex change would then try to compete against other woman. Had they, it would probably have been made illegal.

Secondly for a moral standpoint your quite right, I'm on my moral High Horse. I've 2 year old daughter, who pretty much has changed my outlook on life. Say my 2 year old was 20 years old and she competed in MMA, and she got beat up by another fighter who turned out used to be a man.

What I would do to him/her would most likely see me end up in prison.
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