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Frank Mir has more ways to win the fight than Cormier

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#1 ·
with this fight happening i see everyone saying mir will get killed out there, theres no way mir can win this but if you look closer frank mir has more ways to win this fight than cornier.

-Frank mir can outsrike him with his longer reach(79) to cormiers(71). Frank mir is the taller, longer athlete.

-Frank mir can throw a big punch to set up a bone crushing sub or dive for a leglock.

-Frank mir will get hurt in an exchange, play possum and bait cormier to gnp and can slap on a brutal sub.

-Frank mir can also, although very unlikely, flat out KO cormier.

thats 4 ways as opposed to cormiers 2 ways this will be a close fight but i see mir taking this.

agree/disagree?
 
#2 ·
- Frank Mir may have the long reach but DC is a hell of a lot faster so that is 1 option less.

- Frank Mir can throw a big punch but again, I think DC will be too fast for Mir

- Frank Mir will probably get hurt in an exchange and we all saw how well he played possum in the JDS fight and how that worked out for him.

- Just no
 
#3 ·
- Frank Mir may have the long reach but DC is a hell of a lot faster so that is 1 option less.

- Frank Mir can throw a big punch but again, I think DC will be too fast for Mir

- Frank Mir will probably get hurt in an exchange and we all saw how well he played possum in the JDS fight and how that worked out for him.

- Just no

well you do have a good point on speed, something i overlooked. im sure working at jackson's they have a gameplan for that, my guess would be to stay at outside range, establish a jab, and fight tall.

He has had success when playing possum before(see lesnar 1 fight).
 
#12 ·
bigfoot was already known to get dropped against heavy hitters plus that was a short fight and a short striking exchange + cormiers stand up is overrated besides bigfoot he has outsruck scrubs like monson and staring. Mir on the other hand has good technical stand up and has outsruck the likes of big nog, cro cop and kongo.
 
#18 ·
i like mir a lot so ill go with OP. plus he has a lot more experience in the octagon and against top level competition as he has fought exclusively for the UFC since his 3rd pro fight per wiki. Big Foot is the only person of note that Cormier has finished. I think its too soon for me to buy into the hype that is "DC". we didnt get to see him fight Fedor or Overeem in Strikeforce. if he gets any octagon jitters, he'll be in trouble because Mir will not. as long as Frank doesnt come out with whatever the F his game plan was against JDS, he could win. This isn't nearly the squash match on paper that people make it out to be. Cormier is just a fad unless he beats Frank Mir, in my eyes anyway.
 
#33 ·
Jackson's is the X-factor here, IMO, as are the effects of DC's first fight in the big show.

However, it's tough for me to actually pick Frank (although I did pick him in the betting thread; the odds were just too tempting).

I'm just gonna' say that Mir is the perfect gatekeeper to welcome DC to the UFC.









Mir by Kimura.

:tongue01:
 
#36 ·
It's Daniel's fight to lose imo.

I think Cormier is a deserving favorite. Closest comparable fighter to him today is the best HW in the world and his training partner/coach/student. Cook and Vasquez do a great job getting these big guys prepared to succeed.

It will be interesting to see if Mir's talk about him being in actual shape and having a modern fight camp will prove true. Mir at Jackson/Winklejon's trying to keep up with Jones and Browne should be beneficial for him, but I see Cormier getting a decisive win.

Mir is a danger to finish if he gets an opportunity but he has a matchup problem with Daniel in the boxing and rolling department. Cormier will be able to be where he wants to be for the most part on the mat. I see this going down a lot like Cormier vs Barnett who is arguably better or at least around the same level as Mir in striking and submission grappling.

I have a few bucks on R2 TKO by Cormier. Mir has outs, but I predict trouble for him and a shaky survival to see the 2nd round where he will not last long once in it.

I know it's easy to point to him breaking Big Nogs arm, but I can't shake the fact that he was getting lit up pretty bad just seconds before that. Dan isn't going to try anything cute with subs when he knock Mir over.
 
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