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Old 04-19-2013, 08:41 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Exactly. I would say, with confidence, that GSP existing at WW makes all other WW fighters 20% better then if he was not there. He is the bar that every other WW aspires to reach. They all train harder because they know at the top of the food chain is a monster. The thought of the WW division without GSP makes me very sad. I want to see somebody beat him to win the belt. If he leaves, all other WW champs for the next 5 years will know they are not the real champ.

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Its not a single weight class in a traditional sense. Its at least 20 pounds. To use Boxing as an example, can you see a champion going up 2 or 3 weight divisions to fight another champ being called a "super fight". Never in a million years. Because, its not a super fight. Its a freak show. The term super fight has, for decades, always represented two superb and very equally matched fighters going at it.
Except i believe that GSP would be 200 pounds come fight time. He probably weighs around 187 when not fighting. He could go up to 200 pounds fairly easy within 2-3 months. Anderson Silva probably weighs around 195-200 come fight night. I think GSP could match that.

And in the MMA sense it is exactly 1 weight class difference.

Iv named off freak show fights. GSP vs Anderson is not it. You guys are insulting them by calling it a freak show.

GSP is smart enough to not put himself at the losing end of a "Freak Show" fight. If he did not think he could win then i doubt he would ever take the fight.

Personally i see Anderson beating GSP but i give GSP a better shot then i do most MWs... Hell i think the guy has a much better chance then Stephan Bonnar ever had and Bonnar is a big LHW.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:42 AM   #22 (permalink)
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If GSP/Silva is a "freakshow" then Silva/Bones is definitely a freakshow. Silva/GSP have been the two best fighters on the planet for years now. Their legacies are far beyond what Jones has accomplished. Whether people are interested or not, the super fight to make is still GSP/Silva and not Silva/Jones.

I am all for champions defending their belts and contenders getting their shots. But 1 fight in each division can be out in hold for the biggest fight that could possibly be made.
GSP has never fought at mw, Silva is 3-0 at lhw and all his opponents failed to make it out of the first and failed to pass the drug test after the fight. Silva/Bones is hardly a freakshow it is the real superfight, but I don't wanna see that either since Jones has plenty of contenders at lhw.
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Old 04-19-2013, 08:47 AM   #23 (permalink)
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GSP has never fought at mw, Silva is 3-0 at lhw and all his opponents failed to make it out of the first and failed to pass the drug test after the fight. Silva/Bones is hardly a freakshow it is the real superfight, but I don't wanna see that either since Jones has plenty of contenders at lhw.
Ahh so the weight difference in Bones/Silva does not matter?? Even though Jones makes a big Chael look like a child??


Sounds to me like you guys are creating your opinions based off your emotion.
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Except i believe that GSP would be 200 pounds come fight time. He probably weighs around 187 when not fighting. He could go up to 200 pounds fairly easy within 2-3 months. Anderson Silva probably weighs around 195-200 come fight night. I think GSP could match that.

And in the MMA sense it is exactly 1 weight class difference.

Iv named off freak show fights. GSP vs Anderson is not it. You guys are insulting them by calling it a freak show.

GSP is smart enough to not put himself at the losing end of a "Freak Show" fight. If he did not think he could win then i doubt he would ever take the fight.
Its a freak show because one fighter has far more to win/lose then the other. Super fights are supposed to be evenly matched. If one loses, then he lost fair and square. Not because he was smaller, or whatever other excuse will float around. It doesn't prove who's the best P4P ever. So why bother?

Plus, GSP fighting Silva in his first ever fight at MW? Utterly ridiculous. Sorry friend, but in my eyes, its a freak show.
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Ahh so the weight difference in Bones/Silva does not matter?? Even though Jones makes a big Chael look like a child??


Sounds to me like you guys are creating your opinions based off your emotion.
I simply just told you how dominant anderson is at lhw where gsp has never even sniffed mw, anderson made bonna rlook way worse than bones did too.
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Bones vs Siva is no different. If Silva loses to Bones, what will that mean exactly? Does it mean Bones is the better fighter? Or simply the bigger fighter? A super fight is supposed to conclude P4P status not create even more questions.

No, no, no. I want both GSP and Silva to remain at WW and MW respectively, thank you very much.
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GSP has never fought at mw, Silva is 3-0 at lhw and all his opponents failed to make it out of the first and failed to pass the drug test after the fight. Silva/Bones is hardly a freakshow it is the real superfight, but I don't wanna see that either since Jones has plenty of contenders at lhw.
I'm not saying it is a freakshow, it was an example. GSP/Silva is not a freakshow either. That's just ridiculous. And GSP/Silva is the superfight. It is the two most dominant champions in UFC history and the 2 best fighters on the planet. They are 1 weight class apart. That isn't a freakshow by any means whatsoever. People just make a bs weight issue when there are also reports of GSP walking around well above both 170 and 185. Then they talk about Bones (a fighter that could make HW tomorrow) and Silva and act like they are the exact same size or something.
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it's not about the size, it's about how they handle different weight classes to be able to fight the best at the higher weight class, anderson passed his test with flying colours as we all know, but gsp has not even tried MW once let alone dominant opponents at that weight class, hell nick diaz made him tired and condit nearly Ko'd him.
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Its a freak show because one fighter has far more to win/lose then the other. Super fights are supposed to be evenly matched. If one loses, then he lost fair and square. Not because he was smaller, or whatever other excuse will float around. It doesn't prove who's the best P4P ever. So why bother?

Plus, GSP fighting Silva in his first ever fight at MW? Utterly ridiculous. Sorry friend, but in my eyes, its a freak show.
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In that sense any Jon Jones fight is a freak show fight since his body is much larger and more gifted for MMA then any other fighter in that divison. Hell the guy made Rampage Jackson look small.

I dont know man i dont see the difference between it being his first or third fight at MW. It is just weight not different rules or something that he has to get used to. And his title shot imo is more then justified. Hell why not make the fight at 182 pounds then... neither title would be on the line.

I dont get your comment about 1 guy having more to lose and that making it a freak show. When Anderson Silva fights he has ALOT more to lose then any of his opponents at this point. Not only does he have his title to lose but his win streak and his p4p best title and possibly sponsors, etc etc. And we dont consider those to be freak show fights.


Anyway man that is okay that you consider it a freak show. I just think the reasons given so far have been fairly weak and bias.
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it's not about the size, it's about how they handle different weight classes to be able to fight the best at the higher weight class, anderson passed his test with flying colours as we all know, but gsp has not even tried MW once let alone dominant opponents at that weight class, hell nick diaz made him tired and condit nearly Ko'd him.
GSP was sick in that fight so I imagine his cardio took a bit of a hit and even at that, Nick was dominated.

And yeah Silva passed with flying colors beating up easy competition. He beat James Irvin (wow), and then he got Bonnar and Forrest who's styles literally could not have matched up better for Silva. He hasn't gone up and beaten anyone remotely relevant in the lhw picture, but now he is supposed to beat JbJ? Silva only proved he can make e weight and beat up mid to low low tier fighters. I would bet anything GSP would wipe the floor with an equal level of competition from 185.
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