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  • Alan Belcher

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    Votes: 25 55.6%
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***OFFICIAL*** Alan Belcher vs. Michael Bisping Thread

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#1 ·
Middleweight bout: 185 pounds

 
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#32 ·
On his Bike ? I think you're confusing counter punching and footwork with running away. :confused02:



I can see Mike using a little more wrestling in this one and decisioning Belcher.
I think this a good call , i think Bisping needs to add this dimension to his game if he wants to progress as a fighter.



Belcher is overrated Bisping is gonna jab his way to a victory via taking the safest route to victory.
Safest route................im unsure what you mean , he gets in the octagon and fights , he uses good footwork to get in and out which plays to his strengths this doenst mean he is playing safe...........silly post :confused02:



They're both overrated. In no way is Bisping a top five middleweight.

I see this going the way of your typical Bisping fight. He gets rocked, wins 2 rounds.

29-28 Bisping.


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Both overrated ? Bisping not a top 5 middleweight ?

i think you would struggle to come up with 5 solid candidates for 5 better middleweights.........

...Agreed. Bis has great hands & footwork. He's gonna light up Belcher all night. I don't see Bis getting the finish but a UD...
Exactly how i see it playing out except i can see Bisping shooting on the odd occasion and throwing Belchers gameplan out , although Belcher is tough and crafty so Bisping will need to be sharp to win.



I think people are hating because both choked in their last fights. Bisping got schoold by Vitor and everyone thought Belcher was a matchup nightmare for Okami and he was never really even competitive in that fight.
But Okami and Vitor are top 5 MWs and there is really no shame in losing to either man.
Vitor the drugs cheat that never got caught...........











On a seperate note i find when Bisping fights the comments on forums usually vary from US poster picking a US or non UK fighter to beat Bisping and discrediting everything he has ever done or shitting on him in general.

A little less bias.
 
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#8 ·
Torn on this fight because I am a Belcher fan and think he has the tools to beat Bisping. Could see Bisping using footwork and jumping on his bike in this fight and winning a decision. But really think Belcher has more ways to finish a better grappling game and more diverse stand up. Belcher via 2nd Round TKO would love to see Belcher take that next step.
 
#10 ·
I too am back and fourth with this fight. I want Belcher to win, he has the tools and KO power. Something tells me Bisping will back peddle, jab and keep his distance resulting in a 29/28 victory.

One thing though, let's say the count has a lapse and circles to his right, Alan may be able to catch him and finish.

One of the better scraps on the card :thumbsup:
 
#13 ·
I emailed Belcher when he was having that ticket giveaway saying I'm a huge fan of his and he wrote back like 10 minutes later saying "I really appreciate you" lol. Just thought that was pretty cool.
 
#15 ·
I believe that to be the most likely scenario, but I still bet on Belcher. If Belcher can cut off corners like he has in the past few fights he might be able to control where Bisping can bike to and force him into engagements favorable to him. If he can't, Bisping jab and run all night long.
 
#18 ·
I want to say Bisping by decision, but I think I'll be bold and say Bisping by technical knock out this time around. :) Not even because I'm a fan. I'm just not sold on Belcher as a top guy yet, and Bisping has only really lost to the top guys. He's like on that level between good and elite in my opinion. If only he had more power and a better chin, he'd probably be more successful. He's solid on the ground and has very good stand up and footwork. I don't even think his chin is bad, it's just average. He has the average chin, he won't get knocked out by a gust of wind, but he's not going to take a ton of punishment either. Having barely any power and an average chin isn't a good combination when you're mostly a stand up fighter. His footwork and decent speed are what save him. They're not elite either though, so against the top guys, it shows. Fortunately like I said, I'm not sold on Belcher being an elite fighter so I can see this as winnable for Bisping.

Belcher has an okay ground game and very good stand up as well. Although Bisping has beat harder hitters and Belcher has an average chin as well. Their ground games are around the same level although are both arguably overrated. Belcher has some decent wins showing his ground game, but I'm going to take it upon myself to discredit them all, haha. *Puts on hater hat.*

Palhares fought a ridiculous fight and refused to give up on that heel hook. Belcher showed great submission defense, but it was no surprise that the predictable Palhares was going to go for his signature move. I'm sure Belcher prepared accordingly, and it's safe to say that Bisping isn't going to go for a heel hook if he has top position. Bisping is more of a ground and pound guy. Palhare also seems to give up when he takes any sort of punishment, so it was no surprise he gave up once Belcher gained top position.

MacDonald also gives up once he's in trouble. Belcher's ground and pound stoppage would be more impressive if Nate Quarry hadn't done the same thing, and Quarry seemed to have done it a lot easier as well.

Belcher has a submission win over Cote, but didn't he sort of spike Cote on his head or something? Either way, Cote hasn't looked very good in years. Even in his welterweight debut, he may have gotten the win, but he got out classed on the ground.

Denis Kang was schooling Belcher on the ground up until he got a little careless and got caught in that guillotine choke.

Ed Herman out classed Belcher on the ground. The fight even ended with Herman mounting him and raining down punches. All Belcher could do is cover up and wait for the bell. It was a decision I scored for Herman (who also seemed a little off that night), but Belcher got the split decision nod due to his success standing.

*Takes off hat* I'd mention the fact that he got submitted by Grove, but that was too long ago for me to really hold it against him. The fact is, his ground game is okay, but it hasn't impressed me that much yet. I know I discredited him a lot right there, and I could be wrong. You could also make the same claims against Bisping about his ground game being overrated. I just don't think you can really say who will have the advantage on the ground right now. Belcher doesn't have great take down defense at all, and I think Bisping could put him on his back. If he does, I'm not convinced that Belcher will sweep or submit him. Submitting an inconsistent Kang who was schooling him previously, and gaining top position against a predictable and one trick pony Palhares doesn't convince me that he'll do the same against a well prepared Bisping who will be looking to keep top position and not take unnecessary risks. If Bisping comes in this fight and doesn't take Belcher lightly, I can see him winning.

Like I said though, I admittedly could be way off base when it comes to Belcher. I don't know yet, we'll see and I won't care that much if I'm wrong. Just from what I've seen so far, he's not elite in my opinion and some aspects of his game haven't been that impressive.
 
#21 ·
Belcher by UD or third round TKO. I think he'll wear bisping down with leg and body kicks over the course of the fight. I wouldn't be surprised if he catch Bisping with something hard later on and finishing, but it'll more likely be a solid decision win for Alan.
 
#22 ·
Rooting for Belcher heavily in this fight but either guy winning wouldn't surprise me. All I know is Belcher should throw a good 8-10 hard legkicks in round one to try and slow Bisping's movement. Otherwise he will probably get jabbed to a decision like others have mentioned.
 
#28 ·
I wouldn't say Bisping doesn't have the ability to finish Belcher. It might be unlikely, but it's not like Belcher is known for me being impossible to finish. I don't think a Bisping overwhelming technical knock out moment is completely out of the question.
 
#33 ·
Godammit here come the Bisping's fighting shakes again:( I'm far too emotionally invested in his fights.

WAR BISPING
 
#35 ·
Bisping takes this, Belcher's biggest win was a were he dropped Cote on his head in a fight he was losing.

Bisping via jabs and TD's.
 
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