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Jon Jones 48 71.64%
Chael Sonnen 17 25.37%
Draw 2 2.99%
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:27 AM   #321 (permalink)
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Would be the first time he ever has. I'm an odds kind of guy. He was coming to prove a point, but doesn't mean he has to end in round 1 to prove that point.

Chael wasn't staying at range. He would have needed a well placed uppercut or a elbow/knee to really hurt him. Yes he trained for a charging style, mostly then defending the TDs. But I think it would have taken him at least a round to really figure out how to capitalize in close via MT clinch, breaking elbow, a circle and set up.
Like I said, for me it's just how big the gap was in talent. It's never been that big before. Jones has never outclassed his opponent on that level before IMO. I think Jones could have finished the fight literally however he wanted to and whenever he wanted to. He obviously came in with the plan to take Chael down and prove a point. He didn't even try anything really in the standup. But if he wanted he could have. What we saw was maybe the best LHW to ever step into the cage fighting a guy that would struggle to be a top 20 LHW. It was as big a mismatch as I can remember in recent years.
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Old 04-30-2013, 01:42 PM   #322 (permalink)
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Like I said, for me it's just how big the gap was in talent. It's never been that big before. Jones has never outclassed his opponent on that level before IMO. I think Jones could have finished the fight literally however he wanted to and whenever he wanted to. He obviously came in with the plan to take Chael down and prove a point. He didn't even try anything really in the standup. But if he wanted he could have. What we saw was maybe the best LHW to ever step into the cage fighting a guy that would struggle to be a top 20 LHW. It was as big a mismatch as I can remember in recent years.
Have to agree... Jones was at a whole nother level ... After seeing this fight, other than Gus I don't there's any LHW out there that can challenge Jones right now..
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:11 PM   #323 (permalink)
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He obviously came in with the plan to take Chael down and prove a point. He didn't even try anything really in the standup. But if he wanted he could have.
Dude, what fight are we talking about here? Chael got right in his face from second one, thats why Bones didnt try anything in the standup. You think it went that way because Jones wanted it to? Are you that unable to give Sonnen some credit?
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Dude, what fight are we talking about here? Chael got right in his face from second one, thats why Bones didnt try anything in the standup. You think it went that way because Jones wanted it to? Are you that unable to give Sonnen some credit?
Jones came in there with a set plan to prove a point. If he wanted Chael to be at distance, IMO that's what would have happened. I think the gap in skill was so wide that Jones could have literally done whatever the hell he wanted to and Chael couldn't do a damn thing about it. No I will not give Chael any credit at LHW since he has not earned it.
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Jones came in there with a set plan to prove a point. If he wanted Chael to be at distance, IMO that's what would have happened. I think the gap in skill was so wide that Jones could have literally done whatever the hell he wanted to and Chael couldn't do a damn thing about it. No I will not give Chael any credit at LHW since he has not earned it.
Come on dude... that's ridiculous.
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Come on dude... that's ridiculous.
What's ridiculous is the respect Chael gets as a fighter. Especially as a LHW. I think Chael is the worst guy Bones has fought since he fought Janitor. But even that matchup was more competitive to me since Jones wasn't at the level he is now back then. There is a reason Jones was a 10 to 1 favorite since this was the biggest mismatch of his career.
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I myself am not trying to give Chael credit. It just isn't Jones' game to finish standing striking in the first, he never has in the UFC. It almost went into Rd 2 as it was when he was on top landing elbows.

I stand by the idea that Jones wouldn't have KO'd or dropped him standing. Chael didn't give him that space. And Jones doesn't exactly have big KO power standing. He does with elbows.

Strictly standing it would of took him 2 or 3. There are huge gaps in talent all the time...doesn't mean the better guys always wins in round 1. His previous 6 went over 1 round. His 1st round UFC finishes have all been from GnP.

It is dumb to argue this. But odds are he wouldn't have. It isn't his game.
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:57 PM   #328 (permalink)
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What's ridiculous is the respect Chael gets as a fighter. Especially as a LHW. I think Chael is the worst guy Bones has fought since he fought Janitor. But even that matchup was more competitive to me since Jones wasn't at the level he is now back then. There is a reason Jones was a 10 to 1 favorite since this was the biggest mismatch of his career.
Forget respect. Just look at the fight. I dont particularly like Sonnen. But anybody with eyes could see that he marched forward right at Bones the whole time. He gave him no space. And yet you want to claim Bones wanted that kind of fight and if he wanted to he could have finished Chael instantly?

Thats right up there with the absurd idea that Silva let Sonnen take him down in their fights so he could submit him.
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Jones usually maintains distance by throwing those teeps to the knee. He threw none of those in the match. and when he had Chael against the cage he never once tried to separate and re-set. He tried for a single, threw some body shots, tried for a single again, switched to the double and took Chael down.

It's perfectly obvious Jones wanted to out-grapple Chael. Anyone claiming that was Chael's doing isn't giving Jones the credit he deserves.
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OU you are being totally absurd and it's incredibly transparent how bias your posts are.
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