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Jon Jones 48 71.64%
Chael Sonnen 17 25.37%
Draw 2 2.99%
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:11 AM   #331 (permalink)
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Jones came in there with a set plan to prove a point. If he wanted Chael to be at distance, IMO that's what would have happened. I think the gap in skill was so wide that Jones could have literally done whatever the hell he wanted to and Chael couldn't do a damn thing about it. No I will not give Chael any credit at LHW since he has not earned it.
That is a pretty stupid thought.

There isnt much anyone can do to keep Chael at a distance. He rushes forward takes the punches and tries to take you down. Jones could not do anything to keep him at a distance.
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Old 05-09-2013, 02:16 PM   #332 (permalink)
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What's ridiculous is the respect Chael gets as a fighter. Especially as a LHW. I think Chael is the worst guy Bones has fought since he fought Janitor. But even that matchup was more competitive to me since Jones wasn't at the level he is now back then. There is a reason Jones was a 10 to 1 favorite since this was the biggest mismatch of his career.
don't hate the player, should Chael have said , "no, I don't want a title shot, I don't deserve it" ? Dude got paid and he walked away healthy, if I could go in the cage and walk away with a black eye and a few hundred thousand dollars that's something I'd take it right now. Everyone's hating on Chael for getting as far as he did, I think fighters should take a page from him and learn that having a little personality furthers your career astronomically. As a quiet reseved guy Chael would be a nobody. We all know exactly how good a fighter he is, we all knew he was a massive underdog against Jones. I for one respect anyone who finds the way to maximize their potential at any given venture and Chael definitely did that. The fact that he even got a sniff of the title belt against Silva with his limited abilities is impressive enough. I think it's more respect for how far he made it than respect for how good he really is, imagine if he had the natural abilities of a guy like BJ Penn.
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don't hate the player, should Chael have said , "no, I don't want a title shot, I don't deserve it" ? Dude got paid and he walked away healthy, if I could go in the cage and walk away with a black eye and a few hundred thousand dollars that's something I'd take it right now. Everyone's hating on Chael for getting as far as he did, I think fighters should take a page from him and learn that having a little personality furthers your career astronomically. As a quiet reseved guy Chael would be a nobody. We all know exactly how good a fighter he is, we all knew he was a massive underdog against Jones. I for one respect anyone who finds the way to maximize their potential at any given venture and Chael definitely did that. The fact that he even got a sniff of the title belt against Silva with his limited abilities is impressive enough. I think it's more respect for how far he made it than respect for how good he really is.
I have no problems putting all blame on Dana White if that makes you feel better.
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It's not about making me feel better, just a conversation between level headed individuals. I'd put all the blame on Dana because to me it seems like it did tarnish the UFC's reputability. Seems like the past few years have seen a general decrease in matchup quality and ppv buys.
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It's not about making me feel better, just a conversation between level headed individuals. I'd put all the blame on Dana because to me it seems like it did tarnish the UFC's reputability. Seems like the past few years have seen a general decrease in matchup quality and ppv buys.
IMO Dana White has made multiple poor decisions over recent years and is living off his early success. Most people think he can do no wrong but I think he has done all the good he can do for the sport. He is no longer helping MMA.
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I think he definitely still has some value, but as a promoter and brandmaker, not as a matchmaker. Dana's great at interacting with people and telling people what they need to hear. If he would just be kept away from contracts and the business side of things I think they'd be way better off. In reality the Jones vs. Sonnen fight shouldn't have happened, giving Chael a shot because he stepped up was a bad decision as evidenced by the weak ppvp buys.
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What's ridiculous is the respect Chael gets as a fighter. Especially as a LHW. I think Chael is the worst guy Bones has fought since he fought Janitor. But even that matchup was more competitive to me since Jones wasn't at the level he is now back then. There is a reason Jones was a 10 to 1 favorite since this was the biggest mismatch of his career.
Jones has DOMINATED everyone since bonnar with the expection of machida, the one head kick rashad landed, and vitors armbar. To say chael got dominated more is just.. kinda out there. Hamill - hospital, vera - hospital, matuy - another early win, shogun - tap to strikes, bader - dominated standing and in his strength (wrestling) submitted, rampage missed EVERY punch to the head he threw except 6 jabs.
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Jones beat Sonnen the same way he beats everyone else, nothing special about this fight.

Anyone who thinks Jones' victory against Sonnen at LHW is significant, is an uneducated victim of hype.

Anyone who thinks Jones fought to beat Sonnen at his own game is an uneducated fool.
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Taking Anderson Silva to the limit apparently isn't worthy of respect. Because everyone has done it...
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Anyone who thinks Jones' victory against Sonnen at LHW is significant, is an uneducated victim of hype.
I dunno. The fight had its merits.

We got to see how Jones would deal with a fighter who pressured him instantly. Rampage said he was gonna do it, and he didnt. Rashad said he was gonna do it and he didnt. Sonnen said he was going to do it, and he did. Jones dealt with it magnificently, of course.

Both men have gained a bit more respect from me then they had before the fight.
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